Re: Obj-C and Mac OS BSIT Degree
Re: Obj-C and Mac OS BSIT Degree
- Subject: Re: Obj-C and Mac OS BSIT Degree
- From: "Charlton Wilbur" <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 12:41:59 -0500
On Jan 3, 2008 12:28 PM, Jason Barker <email@hidden> wrote:
I found the same thing at the nearby universities and colleges. I did find
> out that our Computer Science department offers an independent projects
> course.
A good computer science degree will offer you a foundation in things like
data structures and algorithms, and expose you to a variety of different
programming approaches and languages. And this is a good thing: once you
understand object orientation and MVC, Cocoa is very straightforward to pick
up, as is Java, and object-oriented Perl, and C#.NET, and any of a dozen
other languages and environments. But if you've had four years of what
amounts to vocational training in coding Java, for instance, you don't have
the foundation to easily pick up other technologies.
That said, I think Jason's approach is exactly the right one: get the
computer science degree for the foundation, and work on an independent
project to learn Cocoa.
(Someone, I think on this list, commented that one of the things that makes
the average Cocoa programmer much better than the average Java programmer is
that Cocoa *isn't* taught in schools, so the Cocoa programmer is motivated
enough to be self-taught, or at least to further his education outside the
university. The *best* Java programmers and the *best* Cocoa programmers
are at the same level of wizardry, but there are a lot more mediocre Java
programmers.)
Charlton
> I bought a copy of "Cocoa Programming for Mac OS X" and "Programming
> in Objective-C", created my own schedule of the curriculum for a semester,
> and had it approved by the head of the department. Maybe you could do
> something similar.
> This email list has been a great resource for asking clarifying questions
> on
> concepts or getting help with code. There are other sites too, that
> provide
> valuable resources when you don't have an instructor to go to for
> questions.
>
>
> Good luck!
> Jason
>
>
> On Jan 2, 2008 2:15 PM, Justin Schneck <email@hidden> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am interested in furthering my education in programming by studying
> > for a BA in IT. I was looking a schools and nobody seems to focus on
> > Obj-C or Apple Developer related courses. I was looking for
> > suggestions of schools to attend to better fit my degree towards Apple
> > Development.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Justin
> > email@hidden
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