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Re: Anybody using Pantomime or mail-core framework?
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Re: Anybody using Pantomime or mail-core framework?


  • Subject: Re: Anybody using Pantomime or mail-core framework?
  • From: Matt Burnett <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 19:40:06 -0500

Now your talking about hackers instead of spammers. It is hard to sniff a HTTP session, you have to penetrate your victim's network enough to be able to do so. I really doubt a spammer would spend all the time it would take to penetrate your network, parse though gigs of http session dumps, just to be able to spam from one account or server. Even if they did go though all this trouble, most email accounts have quotas to prevent people from spamming with them.

And there are tons of SMTP servers which are configured to allow plaintext authentication. You would also be surprised at the amount of enterprise class software which store shared secrets in their configuration files; look at Symantec's Altiris suite.

On May 13, 2008, at 6:45 PM, Jens Alfke wrote:


On 13 May '08, at 4:35 PM, Matt Burnett wrote:

Its not hard to enable HTTP authentication.

It's also not hard to eavesdrop on the HTTP session using tcpdump, or to debug or disassemble the app to recover the password.
In other words, putting a shared secret into an application distributed to end-users is not secure.


Probably not a realistic fear in this particular case, but there are many, many instances of web scripts like this being abused to send spam, so I don't think I'm being overly paranoid :)

—Jens

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