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Re: Cocoa et al as HCI usability problem
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Re: Cocoa et al as HCI usability problem


  • Subject: Re: Cocoa et al as HCI usability problem
  • From: Torsten Curdt <email@hidden>
  • Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 13:17:07 +0200

That'd be great for the Mac, but not so great for the Cocoa evangelists. It's hard to understand the neglect Java has seen on the Mac, except as a way to try to steer more people towards Cocoa.

Cocoa is a framework, Java a language.

The comparison is not as wrong as you say. Java is essentially the language plus the runtime. People usually refer to Java as a platform - as you don't really can't get one with without the other. That's why there is also is the "Java Platform API Specification"


 http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/api/

...which essentially should be OK to compare to Cocoa.

Apple provided a Cocoa/Java bridge to let developpers choose there prefered language to use Cocoa, and bet what, almost nobody choose Java. That's why the bridge is no collapsing slowly.

That's a bit simplified IMO. It's also a question of marketing and dynamics that are way beyond the scope of Cocoa vs Java alone.
Just because something gets popular and something else gets abundant does not make a statement about the quality of one or the other.


That's said - I am not taking any sides here ..if there are any :)

cheers
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Torsten
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