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Re: Writing Cocoa framework's for iPhone
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Re: Writing Cocoa framework's for iPhone


  • Subject: Re: Writing Cocoa framework's for iPhone
  • From: glenn andreas <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 10:09:36 -0500


On May 21, 2008, at 8:46 AM, Michael Ash wrote:

On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 7:24 PM, I. Savant <email@hidden> wrote:
We are not allowed to "talk in public" about the iphone apis....yet..Is
called "DNA"

Well, no, it's called "NDA", which stands for "non-disclosure agreement".
It's that pesky legal contract you agreed to in order to gain access to the
iPhone SDK that says "DO NOT TALK ABOUT THE SDK UNTIL IT IS PUBLICLY
RELEASED" (I'm paraphrasing).


I really don't understand why you feel the list needs a warning not to
break a legally-binding contract. By that logic, every person should wear a
label above their heads reminding you what contracts you're bound to so you
don't break them when interacting with that person. Clearly ridiculous.

I "agreed" to similar contracts every time I've installed Mac OS X and Xcode and nobody ever got annoyed when I talked about *those* in a public forum.


They did if you asked about, for example, Leopard features before Leopard was released.


The confusing thing about the iPhone SDK isn't the contract, it's the
inconsistency. It's no more difficult to get your hands on the iPhone
SDK than it is to get your hands on a public release of Xcode. (In
both cases you must have an account, fill out a bunch of forms, click
through an NDA, etc.) Yet one can be discussed freely and the other
cannot. Frankly I'm left puzzled as to the rules here, or why Apple is
so adamant about protecting the "secrets" in something that literally
anyone on the planet with an internet connection can download directly
from their own servers, and I doubt I'm alone on that count.

Mike

It's simple - if it is beta software that you have to have a developer account to download, you can't ask. If it is release software, you can ask (even if you need a developer account to access it). If it is publicly available beta software (such as public betas of Safari), you can ask.


So just like you couldn't talk about pre-release versions of Leopard, you can't talk about iPhone SDK questions, beta versions of Xcode, etc...

It's nothing new - this has all happened before, this will all happen again. And at WWDC people will once again ask for a mailing list for discussing such NDA'ed material, and the Twelve that sit in in the feedback session will say "request noted..."


Glenn Andreas email@hidden <http://www.gandreas.com/> wicked fun! m.o.t.e.s. | minute object twisted environment simulation



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References: 
 >Writing Cocoa framework's for iPhone (From: "Vijay Malhan" <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Writing Cocoa framework's for iPhone (From: "Bruno Sanz" <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Writing Cocoa framework's for iPhone (From: "I. Savant" <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Writing Cocoa framework's for iPhone (From: "Michael Ash" <email@hidden>)

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