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Re: Cocoa et al as HCI usability problem
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Re: Cocoa et al as HCI usability problem


  • Subject: Re: Cocoa et al as HCI usability problem
  • From: Peter Duniho <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 16:37:22 -0700

Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 15:14:24 -0400
From: Jeff LaMarche <email@hidden>

Pete - you complain that people should treat newcomers better, yet
here you are characterizing what many of us have said in a blatantly
antagonistic way. Riff-raff? We "like" that it's keeping you out?
Nobody said any such thing.

As I wrote in my other reply to Sherm:

Of course they have.  I don't see any other way to read this message:
http://lists.apple.com/archives/Cocoa-dev/2008/May/msg01604.html

Shortly after, another poster replied for the sole purpose of agreeing with the sentiment:
http://lists.apple.com/archives/Cocoa-dev/2008/May/msg01667.html


It's true, the phrase "riff-raff" wasn't actually used. But it's the essence of what was written.

I don't know why it is you guys didn't notice those particular statements, and I agree that they aren't representative of the bulk of the comments. But it's not true that that sort of sentiment is never expressed. I've seen it before, and it came up rather directly in this thread. Not one single member of the community spoke out against the sentiment, which only lends it more credibility.


Pete
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