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Re: How hard is it to learn Cocoa - Survey?
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Re: How hard is it to learn Cocoa - Survey?


  • Subject: Re: How hard is it to learn Cocoa - Survey?
  • From: Jeff LaMarche <email@hidden>
  • Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 13:53:23 -0400

On May 25, 2008, at 4:18 PM, Erik Buck wrote:
So this is a survey:
For those who consider themselves intermediate to advanced Cocoa programmers, how long was the journey from newbie to competent and from competent to advanced ? What percentage of your time did you dedicate over how many months ?

Newbie to competent was either 4 months, or 20 years and 4 months, depending on how you look at it, spending 2-3 hours a day on weekdays, and probably 4-6 hours a day on most weekends. The two different numbers are because I brought a lot of programming experience to the table when I started learning Cocoa, I knew many languages, had worked with OO application frameworks like PowerPlant and had used C++ and the STL, and Java, plus some proprietary programming languages like PeopleCode. As a result of that previous experience, a lot of stumbling blocks some people have learning Cocoa were already under my belt.


From competent to truly competent (intermediate) was probably another 4 months at the same schedule. I won't give a number to "advanced" because I wouldn't consider myself advanced, and don't believe I will until/unless I'm able to start doing Cocoa full time, though I feel like I do enough with Cocoa to hold steady at around the advanced intermediate level. Unfortunately, at present, probably 75% of my programming time is in other languages, but if I had to guess, I'd guess that from my present ability level, it would take six months to a year of working with it full time before I'd feel comfortable saying I was "advanced".


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