Re: How hard is it to learn Cocoa - Survey ?
Re: How hard is it to learn Cocoa - Survey ?
- Subject: Re: How hard is it to learn Cocoa - Survey ?
- From: James Merkel <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 14:22:02 -0700
On May 25, 2008, at 2:21 PM, Erik Buck wrote:
So this is a survey:
For those who consider themselves intermediate to advanced Cocoa
programmers, how long was the journey from newbie to competent and
from competent to advanced ? What percentage of your time did you
dedicate over how many months ?
Maybe we can establish a standard distribution of learning time
required. Just having a basis to set expectations might help future
newbies.
I wouldn't consider myself an intermediate to advanced Cocoa
programmer, however the time span between when I started looking at
the Aaron Hillegass book to when I released a Cocoa application was 1
year (mid 2002 to mid 2003). So you could consider this moving from
newbie to competent . I did this in my spare time -- weekends and some
week nights. My daytime job had nothing to do directly with
programming (and certainly nothing to do with Mac programming). My
previous experience was C-programming, Forth (MacForth and Mach II),
and 6502 assembly. These were also self-taught.
By the way, prior to looking at Objective-C, I didn't "grok" OO
programming at all (to use the vernacular). It was only after reading
Aaron Hillegass a while that I started to "get it". The other book I
used was "Cocoa Programming" by Anguish, Buck, and Yacktman (two of
the authors on here). That book is now a little "long in the tooth"
since it uses Project Builder and the old version Interface Builder.
However it is still a good reference for the basic Cocoa classes. Also
it has stuff on Cocoa Design Patterns. Interestingly, the book (even
with 1200+ pages) barely mentions File's Owner -- a topic of great
interest around here lately.
Jim Merkel
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