Re: LSUIElement application and coming to the front
Re: LSUIElement application and coming to the front
- Subject: Re: LSUIElement application and coming to the front
- From: Nick Beadman <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:51:03 -0700
Matt,
On Oct 23, 2008, at 10:40 am, Matt Neuburg wrote:
I know this isn't quite the answer you want, but one approach is to
give up on LSUIElement and just have a normal app. Your app can
watch what app is frontmost and show and hide itself accordingly,
and can intrude its palette so that it is in front even when the
other app is actually frontmost (using NSFloatingWindowLevel), thus
calling attention to itself as a window supplementary to the other
app, but there is still a distinction, and when
the user actually clicks on the palette to use it, your app comes to
the front. I use this approach and I and my users find it a lot less
confusing
than e.g. what Help Viewer does in Leopard (which is simply
horrendous IMHO). m.
I actually agree that the Help Viewer is not the best UI in the Mac OS
X universe. However, I am only using it as an example of an
application that does exactly what I need mine to do. Believe me, my
implementation will be much improved. I certainly will be very careful
about the window only appearing when needed and being less intrusive
than the Help Viewer.
While I would like this to be a separate application with it's own
menu bar, that just simply isn't an option as I am supplementing an
application which has it's own palettes and these must be on screen to
maintain the illusion of my palette being part of the "host"
application. Integration will be done via a plug-in in the host
application which will allow me full control over the Cocoa application.
I did investigate the Help Viewer a little more and it's main window
has a custom class of HVWindow. Doing an otool on the executable shows
that the methods it implements are:
- (BOOL)canBecomeMainWindow
- (BOOL)becomeFirstResponder
- (BOOL)acceptsFirstResponder
which give me more clues to pursue. My next area of inquiry is going
to be poking around Help Viewer using F-Script to see if I can figure
out anything interesting.
Nick
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Nick Beadman
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