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Re: Dependent values that are not iVars
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Re: Dependent values that are not iVars


  • Subject: Re: Dependent values that are not iVars
  • From: Paul Bruneau <email@hidden>
  • Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 14:48:58 -0500


On Dec 18, 2009, at 2:28 PM, Kyle Sluder wrote:

On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Paul Bruneau
<email@hidden> wrote:
if ([keyPath isEqualToString:kOverallWidth]) {
[self willChangeValueForKey:@"overallWidth"];
NSLog(@"got notification that overallwidth changed:
%@", object);
[self didChangeValueForKey:@"overallWidth"];
}

Please note that it is not correct to call -will/didChangeValueForKey: without actually changing the value. The KVO mechanism might just simply not send a notification at all. (Well, I guess it's valid, but you might see fewer observation notifications than you would expect.) This is difficult to get right with derived properties.

Also don't have the first inclination I had, which is to use
-keyPathsForValuesAffectingValueForKey:. As described in the
documentation, it will not work.

Ugh, so I guess you are saying that derived properties are not trustworthy in this usage?


I like them so much because then I never have to worry about the stored value being out of date (which admittedly, if I do everything exactly right, I guess it will never be out of date, but I like not having to worry about it).

It's also a bummer because so far it is working fabulously with willChange/didChange.

I might live dangerously and leave it in until it bites me.

Thanks for the warning, I'll make note of it.
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