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Re: ObjC in time-critical parts of the code
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Re: ObjC in time-critical parts of the code


  • Subject: Re: ObjC in time-critical parts of the code
  • From: Justin Carlson <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 20:56:47 -0600

On Jan 18, 2009, at 7:36 PM, Greg Titus wrote:


On Jan 18, 2009, at 5:13 PM, Justin Carlson wrote:


Jean-Daniel Dupas wrote: > > Each time you use KVC/KVO.

Hi Jean-Daniel,

Sorry if I misreading this, your response was short - it could mean a few things. I am inclined to think you were responding to my question "how often do your subclasses rewrite getters/setters?".


Justin,

Jean-Daniel was referring to the way that Apple has implemented automatic KVO compatibility. The first time that someone tries to observe an object of class X with accessor -foo, and -setFoo:, the framework makes a dynamic subclass of your class X called something like X_KVO, and reimplements -setFoo: to be something like:

- (void)setFoo:(id)aFoo
{
	[self willChangeValueForKey:@"foo"];
	[super setFoo:aFoo];
	[self didChangeValueForKey:@"foo"];
}

It then replaces the original X class with the X_KVO class (using a mechanism like -poseAs:) so that all existing X's are now X_KVO's. This automatic and dynamic subclassability of getters/setters makes KVO a lot easier to use, because a lot of it happens for you without any effort on the programmer's part. And, of course, this wouldn't be possible had the setter been defined non-virtually in a language like C++. So here's an example of the dynamism being useful for even the smallest and simplest of methods (that would normally be inlined in a C++ framework design).

Hope this helps,
	- Greg


Hi Greg,

Thank you for clarifying Jean-Daniel's response. ObjC has nice features, strengths, and conveniences; neither I nor Scott tried to make that argument against ObjC. Unfortunately, this mechanism does not compare to the alternatives in performance critical zones - where the 'free' interface is usually overkill for member access. I'm not saying that it is not a necessary ingredient to the mechanics of KVC/ KVO, just that there are better alternatives in performance critical zones.

Regards,

J



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 >Re: ObjC in time-critical parts of the code (From: Justin Carlson <email@hidden>)
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 >Re: ObjC in time-critical parts of the code (From: Justin Carlson <email@hidden>)
 >Re: ObjC in time-critical parts of the code (From: Greg Titus <email@hidden>)

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