Re: Cocoa Document-Based App v. Windows MDI App
Re: Cocoa Document-Based App v. Windows MDI App
- Subject: Re: Cocoa Document-Based App v. Windows MDI App
- From: Andy Lee <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 03:33:17 -0400
A tabbed view is not MDI, at least not the MDI I recall from many
years ago. Also, David didn't only ask about addressing the same
issues as MDI (roughly speaking: single window, multiple documents),
he asked about *looking* like Windows. He did ask about tabs, but if
that's *all* he was asking, I agree, the answer should have been
obvious, although I missed the *really* obvious example you pointed
out -- Xcode.
I still think it's unclear what the real needs are in this
organization, or the perceived ones, for that matter. Why are Windows
programmers telling the Mac guy what to do? How is their challenge
helping anybody, least of all themselves?
--Andy
On Jul 27, 2009, at 6:22 AM, Simon Hickmott wrote:
I don't really agree, as others have suggested, that this is a
hammering a Mac-shaped peg into a Windows-shaped hole problem we're
dealing with here. There are many successful Mac applications which
use a tabbed view to consolidate multiple documents: TextMate comes
immediately to mind — you wouldn't want multiple separate windows on
screen when developing a Rails app, let me tell you. The solution
there is to use an NSDrawer to manage a directory tree, with a
tabbed view for navigating through opened documents. Mail and
XCode's Organizer use a split view, similarly, without the baffling-
to-some-users,-it-seems Drawer. The way I see it, there's no need to
resort to any third party jiggery-pokery to achieve your solution
when the Cocoa tools are already there, all of which comply with
Apple's HIG.
On 27 Jul 2009, at 04:46, David Blanton wrote:
I am the only Mac programmer where I work; the rest being
windows. I am constantly challenged to make Mac programs look
like windows to some extent.
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