Re: Discussion to splinter off cocoa-dev list
Re: Discussion to splinter off cocoa-dev list
- Subject: Re: Discussion to splinter off cocoa-dev list
- From: Todd Heberlein <email@hidden>
- Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:16:53 -0700
so grueling and satisfying at the same time, we may never know. With
all the new functionality (APIs) to be provided in 10.6 and for the
iPhone 3.0, I wonder if it would be worth having some frank
discussion on if now is a good time to split off from this list some
more focused discussion lists.
Well, I don't think the 10.6 stuff can be talked about in a public
forum until after it ships in September. There is a forum site at developers.apple.com
on which NDA-related stuff can be discussed.
I was part of many discussions that revolved not around demanding
new features per-se', but more of hashing things out among
developers and engineers in order to get something coherent to
submit as a Radar or Enhancement/Bug report.
I find writing a good bug report very time consuming. I have to
isolate the problem, develop the simplest example possible to allow
the engineers to reproduce the problem, then write up instructions on
reproducing it, what should be seen, what is actually seen, etc. In
short, it is sort of like writing a mini-academic paper. But I have
been very pleased with the responses I've gotten from Apple for my
efforts, so I usuallly feel it is worth it.
One trouble we already have is cross-posting or posting to the wrong
list. Using launchd to launch a Cocoa app for example should probably
be taken to the Darwin mailing list, but if someone is already a
subscriber to Cocoa, they probably don't know about the Darwin list or
don't want to subscribe just to post a single question. So it gets
posted to this mailing list. With more focused mailing lists I fear
there will just be more emails sent to the wrong mailing lists.
Maintaining "mailing list purity" is always a challenge. At which
point, a moderator should probably come along and respond to this
email as "off topic" for this mailing list. ;^)
Todd
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