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Re: IBPlugin embedding question


  • Subject: Re: IBPlugin embedding question
  • From: Doug Scott <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 11:39:24 -0700


On Jun 25, 2009, at 10:37 AM, Kevin Cathey wrote:

You should not under any circumstances modify a XIB file outside of IB.
I don't even build the darned things. When they first came out they messed up the build in ways I really didn't have time to figure out. I just set things to build the old way only. Problem solved. Haven't needed to revisit the issue. When it stops being broke I stop fixing it.

Kevin

On 24 Jun 2009, at 16:10, WT wrote:

Hi Doug,

I don't have any experience in designing and implementing IB plugins, but I thought I'd pass along an observation that has served me well on occasions when I needed to make error-prone changes to many similar nib files (well, xib files, actually): xib files are xml files, so they're amenable to text-editing.

If the changes you find yourself making are reasonably structured, you could write a script that processes your plugin xib files and add a run-script phase to your build system.

Wagner

On Jun 25, 2009, at 12:46 AM, Doug Scott wrote:

Question: How can I automate the maintenance of embedded IBPlugins.

Xcode Version 3.1.3
Interface Builder Version 3.1.2 (677)

I have developed a small series of custom IBPlugin framework projects, two of which include other custom IBPlugin objects. Here is a quick overview of the hierarchy.
- IBPlugin-A: A view with a custom API.
- IBPlugin-B: A view which adds a set of controls to manipulate the embedded IBPlugin-A view via its API.
- IBPlugin-C: A view which embeds two IBPlugin-B views side by side.
- Application-D: Contains a nib with a view which contains an IBPlugin-C view.
- Problem: Change is pure drudgery. When I make even the most trivial change to IBPlugin-B I have a long string of manual 'fix- ups' I must do to make everything once again function correctly in Application-D.
- Solution of the moment: Think thrice before I make a change and if it is 'worth it' go ahead and change it - then pay the price.
- The price: Details withheld for brevity. Suffice it to say there is a lot of manual dragging and dropping and outlet connection repairs and terminal install builds at each level up the chain of IBPlugin frameworks and IBPlugin Librarys and nib views as old custom view objects are deleted and new ones dropped into their place and reconnected to their outlets. Miss one step somewhere and nothing works - start over dude!


Although I'm quite happy with the end results of being able to utilize nested IBPlugins of ever encreasing complexity I'm not at all happy with the ever increasing complexity needed to manually repair everything up the chain when I make a simple tweak to a lower level custom IBPlugin. This problem appears to make future expansion of embedded IBPlugins almost impossible to maintain as I'd have to do the manual fix-ups to every future IBPlugin and every application and every nib that used an IBPlugin that is modified. This way lies madness.

In the realm of compiled code I simply 'include' a framework or 'import' external sources and it all gets picked up 'automagically' by all code that uses external code. But in the 'visual' world of Interface Builder it seems to require human intervention at every step of the way. I do not see any way for the different views to 'include' other views indirectly, only by manually adding the objects via drag and drop can an IBPlugin be upgraded to utilize another custom IBPlugin's visual elements. Nib files seem to be only a static 'snapshot' of a point in time during the development processes, and not really part of a modern dynamic build system.

I'm hoping that I missed the point somewhere along the long and painful journey I've travelled in my quest to pound IBPlugins into submission and that wiser heads will be able to lead me to wisdom.

-Doug Scott
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 >Re: IBPlugin embedding question (From: WT <email@hidden>)
 >Re: IBPlugin embedding question (From: Kevin Cathey <email@hidden>)

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