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Re: MacRoman -> UTF8 [solved]
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Re: MacRoman -> UTF8 [solved]


  • Subject: Re: MacRoman -> UTF8 [solved]
  • From: Peter Duniho <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:29:14 -0700

On Mar 22, 2009, at 5:22 AM, Uli Kusterer wrote:

On 22.03.2009, at 12:22, Michael Ash wrote:
Just a general request for the list here: could we not add "[solved]"
to the topic when the problem is solved? It breaks threading and
causes confusion. Just stick it into the original thread. The act of
having solved the problem is not so significant that it needs to be
made evident the moment we read the subject....

What mail app are you using? Apple Mail shows it just fine as part of the thread it was in. So do most other mail apps. There's a header in RFC822-style mail messages that indicates the thread, the subject doesn't even begin to figure into the equation.

It doesn't matter what email client someone _might_ be using. The fact that not ALL email clients can deal with it is sufficient cause for concern.


Of particular note is Apple's own mail archive for the mailing list. Maybe they've fixed it recently, but a couple of years ago when I first started with Cocoa, I got very frustrated trying to read threads in the archive only to find that the one email message in which the solution was to be found, was not grouped with the rest of the thread (this is especially problematic when "solved" is prepended to the subject, as is so often the case). The experience was much as if someone had torn the last page out of a gripping suspense novel.

I've gotten enough grief already for not being willing to "play along" with community philosophy here, so I've kept my mouth shut on this particular issue. But I think Michael's a frequent enough contributor and has a high enough reputation that if he makes a suggestion, people ought to consider it seriously. I will happily state my agreement with his suggestion, given that it's been a source of frustration to me since I started following this mailing list.

Please. Stop mucking with the subject. There really is very little benefit to adding the word "solved" to the subject, but there is definitely a significant drawback. I have followed various community/ online electronic forums for nearly thirty years, and this is the only one I've run across in which there is this habit of adding "solved" to the subject. No doubt it's not the only place where the behavior can be seen, but there's ample evidence that it's not helpful enough to gain traction as a widespread convention. I'd just as soon see it disappear here too.

And my apologies to Michael if my statement of support for his request only hurts the chances of it being honored. :)

Pete
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