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Re: Invoice program made in Objective c/Cocoa


  • Subject: Re: Invoice program made in Objective c/Cocoa
  • From: Andreas Grosam <email@hidden>
  • Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 14:47:44 +0200

On May 18, 2009, at 4:01 AM, Michael Ash wrote:

Perhaps you should have taken more than a first glance. For example, here:

http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/CoreData/Articles/cdBasics.html#/ /apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40001650

"Core Data is not a relational database or a relational database
management system (RDBMS)."
This is unrelated to the problem. Mike, I think you are using a straw man argument - or you totally misunderstood me.

Why would you think I had ever designed a database application or framework? All I know is, CoreData is *not* a database framework, so your whining about how it fails some fundamental requirement for database frameworks makes no sense.
I think you misunderstood me. Core Data could be a very useful *part* of a database application framework. But it is not, because it apparently lacks the ability to interface to other related parts of a database application framework (ORM, data access layer, storage management) - at least this is what I conclude from this discussion.


Again, to make this clear: I don't claim that Core Data should implement all these layers of a database application framework (or even a RDBMS). And honestly, it should not! Rather it should provide a means to interface with them.



And using your car example: having tires is certainly useful. But they become even more useful if you can mount them on your car. ;)




Andreas

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