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Re: High Level Toolkit -- is it obsolete or not?
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Re: High Level Toolkit -- is it obsolete or not?


  • Subject: Re: High Level Toolkit -- is it obsolete or not?
  • From: Joel May <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 17:22:28 -0600

Oh yeah.  I've actually already done that with some other cocoa calls.  I forgot.  I have deploy sdk = 10.4 and base sdk = 10.5 (will change to 10.6).
Thanks,
Joel


On Feb 23, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Jean-Daniel Dupas wrote:

> You don't have to build a separate version. Just test for method availability at runtime:
>
> if ([NSEvent respondsToSelector:@selector(pressedMouseButtons)])
> 	return [NSEvent pressedMouseButtons];
> else
> 	// do it the old way.
>
>
>
> Le 23 févr. 2010 à 23:18, Joel May a écrit :
>
>> Hey Eric,
>>
>> This is very helpful.  I'll take a look at [NSEvent pressedMouseButtons].  I still have to support tiger and leopard, but I'll build a separate snow leopard version and #ifdef that call in there.
>>
>> I've had the heebie-jeebies about including the Carbon framework in my application.  But I'm cool with it now.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Joel
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:15 AM, Eric Schlegel wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 22, 2010, at 11:53 AM, Joel May wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would like to create a thread (NSThread) with a bumped-up priority and poll the mouse and keyboard the same way I did in the carbon version.  I'd like to use the cocoa equivalents of GetButton() and GetKeys() but I can't find them.
>>>
>>> GetButton() [by which I think you actually mean Button()] - the Cocoa equivalent is +[NSEvent pressedMouseButtons], available in 10.6 and later
>>> GetKeys() - I don't believe there is currently a Cocoa or CoreGraphics equivalent (but could be wrong!). It's perfectly fine to continue using GetKeys().
>>>
>>>> Am I safe using these api's. Are we supposed to not use them?
>>>
>>> You are safe using these APIs. They are still supported. We recommend that you use Cocoa equivalents when available - so you could use +[NSEvent pressedMouseButtons] on 10.6 and later, and Button() on 10.5 and earlier.
>>>
>>>> Will they go away in 10.7?
>>>
>>> No, because that would break many existing applications, and we place a high priority on not breaking existing applications.
>>>
>>>> Why do I read everywhere that carbon is dead and high level toolkit is dead?
>>>
>>> Because many people are misinformed. Apple no longer recommends Carbon for new application development - Cocoa is recommended for all new development - but Carbon is not being removed from the OS either, because that would break existing applications. The High Level Toolbox APIs will continue to be supported for 32-bit apps and some parts of HLTB will also still be supported for 64-bit in cases where there is no other 64-bit equivalent.
>>>
>>>> If High Level Toolkit is ok, then why doesn't it appear in the docs.   If I search the Mac OS X Reference Library, it does not get the same treatment that the cocoa api gets.
>>>
>>> You'd have to ask Apple Developer Relations about that. I'm just a grunt engineer. :)
>>>
>>> -eric
>>>
>>
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 >High Level Toolkit -- is it obsolete or not? (From: Joel May <email@hidden>)
 >Re: High Level Toolkit -- is it obsolete or not? (From: Eric Schlegel <email@hidden>)
 >Re: High Level Toolkit -- is it obsolete or not? (From: Joel May <email@hidden>)
 >Re: High Level Toolkit -- is it obsolete or not? (From: Jean-Daniel Dupas <email@hidden>)

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