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Re: Menu Item Key Equivalent
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Re: Menu Item Key Equivalent


  • Subject: Re: Menu Item Key Equivalent
  • From: koko <email@hidden>
  • Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 17:18:36 -0600

Lots of good information.  It seems that what I want should work and as mentioned does work with unadorned numeric equivalents but does not with unadorned alphabet equivalents.

So I am still searching but thanks to all.


On Aug 5, 2011, at 1:14 AM, Quincey Morris wrote:

> On Aug 4, 2011, at 23:42 , Kyle Sluder wrote:
>
>> Not being an Aperture user myself: Is Aperture a Cocoa app? Do these key equivalents work if the main content view isn't first responder. Are they even assigned in the menus?
>>
>> FWIW we do have unadorned keys like  Z to zoom in OmniGraffle. I'm not sure how it implements that.
>
> I believe that key equivalents *without* the Command key started being supported in Cocoa applications some time before Leopard.
>
> I believe that this capability superseded a harder-to-use Carbon technique, and also provided standard menu drawing for the shift, option and control key symbols, something that had always needed custom code in Carbon.
>
> I believe we established a few weeks ago that the sequence is something like this:
>
> -- Key combinations that *do* include the Command key are intercepted before the first responder gets a look at them.
>
> -- If they are consumed by a menu item, the first responder never sees them.
>
> -- Otherwise, or if they *don't* include the Command key, they're sent to the responder chain normally.
>
> -- If the responder chain doesn't consume them, then they're interpreted as menu item shortcuts if possible.
>
> -- If they're not consumed by a menu item, the application beeps.
>
> Those probably aren't the exact details, but this order means that typing works normally in a text field, even if the typed characters are otherwise interpretable as non-Command key equivalents.
>
>
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References: 
 >Menu Item Key Equivalent (From: koko <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Menu Item Key Equivalent (From: Kyle Sluder <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Menu Item Key Equivalent (From: koko <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Menu Item Key Equivalent (From: Kyle Sluder <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Menu Item Key Equivalent (From: koko <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Menu Item Key Equivalent (From: Graham Cox <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Menu Item Key Equivalent (From: vincent habchi <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Menu Item Key Equivalent (From: Kyle Sluder <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Menu Item Key Equivalent (From: Quincey Morris <email@hidden>)

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