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Re: Is a file open in another application?
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Re: Is a file open in another application?


  • Subject: Re: Is a file open in another application?
  • From: Conrad Shultz <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 11:40:59 -0700

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On 3/19/11 11:10 AM, Kyle Sluder wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Conrad Shultz
> <email@hidden> wrote:
>> Note that this will only capture files that are properly opened (i.e.
>> fopen()'d), so you won't catch every apparently open file.  For example,
>> if you open a file in vi(m), it creates a hidden scratch file in the
>> same directory and closes the original file.  You then edit the scratch
>> file, which is only written out to the original file on save.  In this
>> way, the original file is protected from damage due to a crash, but lsof
>> will almost never show it as being open.
>
> This is also how Cocoa apps work. They only keep the file open to read
> its contents.
>
> I'm afraid that what Brad wants to do is not possible yet.

Are you certain that is a general behavior?

For example, I have Preview open right now, and it very much lists all
its open files:

iodine:~ shultzc$ lsof -p 1379 | grep pdf
Preview 1379 shultzc  txt      REG       14,2    189325 9688581
/Users/shultzc/Downloads/758206463.pdf
Preview 1379 shultzc  txt      REG       14,2     91087 9682563
/Users/shultzc/Downloads/jo001518o.pdf
Preview 1379 shultzc  txt      REG       14,2    492849 9684998
/Users/shultzc/Downloads/pat5925487.pdf
Preview 1379 shultzc  txt      REG       14,2    818740 9682461
/Users/shultzc/Downloads/103_34.pdf

Ditto for Pages:

iodine:~ shultzc$ lsof -p 13384 | grep pages
Pages   13384 shultzc   13r     REG       14,2     93930 7814760
/Users/shultzc/develop/Synthetiq/forms/2010-09-14_Apple_fax.pages

I _do_ see that OmniFocus uses a cache instead of the underlying
database (kudos!), but unfortunately I don't actually have Office, so I
can't test the OP's scenario.

But it does seem from the above that this can be handled in an
implementation-specific manner, no?  (Please forgive my ignorance, I
develop mostly with iOS.)


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Conrad Shultz

Synthetiq Solutions
www.synthetiqsolutions.com
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