Re: This board is slow. Was: OS_OBJECT_USE_OBJC_RETAIN_RELEASE and xpc_release()
Re: This board is slow. Was: OS_OBJECT_USE_OBJC_RETAIN_RELEASE and xpc_release()
- Subject: Re: This board is slow. Was: OS_OBJECT_USE_OBJC_RETAIN_RELEASE and xpc_release()
- From: Fritz Anderson <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 15:18:16 -0600
Also: I recently went on a marathon watching Troll 2, Birdemic, Manos: The Hands of Fate, and Plan 9 from Outer Space. It reminded me of the search facility in the Apple Developer Forums. Jaw-dropping. Comically unqualified to be what it claims it is. The search context is discarded when you refine your search. The incremental search flashes likely matches out of sight, and there is no way to recover for long enough to select them. The search engine knows so little about the API that (to paraphrase my book) it suggests you meant some term from veterinary medicine. And on and on.
That's quite aside from the fact that people ought to be able to get help on Mac and iOS programming without paying a hundred bucks. I work at a university where students have at least as many Macs as Windows machines; there are a lot of students who want to learn, and have the pricey machines they'd need. $99 out of pocket is out of the question for them. It's a significant issue with faculty, too.
And now I'll bow out of the mailing-list-versus-web-forum religious war.
— F
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Fritz Anderson -- Xcode 4 Unleashed: 4.5 supplement in the works -- <http://x4u.manoverboard.org/>
On 5 Nov 2012, at 1:52 PM, Alex Kac <email@hidden> wrote:
> The problem with the Apple Forums is that you get people who are on a power trip there more often than you have here. The really nice part of the Apple Forums is sometimes you actually get engineers who answer questions there.
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> I also sense that this list is far more technically minded whereas the Apple Forums tend to have a lot more people asking inane questions that crowd out the more advanced technical ones here.
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> Years before iOS's SDK was released which finally let me develop for Apple's platform again (prior to that was OS 7/8 back in the ninetees), I spent a year lurking on this list which actually taught me a lot about Objective-C that I never saw discussed in any book, class, or other reading material.
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> Personally I'd prefer this list to continue to exist alongside Apple's Dev Forums.
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