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Re: Mixing Obj-C and C "methods"
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Re: Mixing Obj-C and C "methods"


  • Subject: Re: Mixing Obj-C and C "methods"
  • From: Andy Lee <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:48:28 -0400

On Jul 30, 2013, at 11:25 AM, Scott Ribe <email@hidden> wrote:
> On Jul 30, 2013, at 9:08 AM, Andy Lee <email@hidden> wrote:
>
>> I think it's subject to the same criticisms as *any* direct access to ivars, although I agree it feels sketchier when done in plain C for some reason.
>
> Yes. Because what is the point of plain C functions in Objective-C files? Local helpers that are not OOP, and do not go through method dispatch overhead. To turn around and inject direct access to ivars in those is really mixing metaphors.

One reason people might directly access ivars applies to methods as well as functions: the class may not have a getter method for that ivar.  Now, there is a school of thought that says ivars should *always* be accessed via a getter method, except in init and dealloc, and if necessary a "private" getter should be added.  If one does not subscribe to that school of thought, and accesses ivars directly in methods, I personally don't think it's a *huge* deal to do so in functions, especially since the function has to be inside the @implementation section and it won't be a commonplace thing.  But as always, I'm happy to code to the accepted norms of whatever team I'm on.

>> Which reminds me... instance methods can also directly access the ivars of *other* instances of the same class.
>
> Now, *that* I knew. I'm sorry senator, I cannot recall if I ever did such a thing. But I knew it was possible ;-)

So noted, and we thank you for your testimony today. :)

--Andy


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