Re: iOS7 Controls
Re: iOS7 Controls
- Subject: Re: iOS7 Controls
- From: David Rowland <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 17:54:16 -0700
I'm happy to embrace iOS7, but Apple's own software offers a caution.
The weather app is almost unreadable - tiny, thin type in white on a light blue background. The calendar won't present a list view unless you are searching. The calculator in scientific mode uses tiny type on "buttons" that can easily support something larger. Can you see the difference between the square root and cube root symbols without a magnifier?
The clock and compass are better. I presume that iBooks and Pages will lose their wood and satin.
David
On Sep 24, 2013, at 5:04 PM, Luther Baker <email@hidden> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Alex Zavatone <email@hidden> wrote:
>
>> I'm with you, Gordon. I just bought a new iPad before 7 came out so I do
>> not have to use iOS 7, unless it is in the simulator.
>>
>> It looks too feminine and juvenile for me to feel comfortable using. I'll
>> just leave my opinion at that.
>>
>
> Great! :)
>
>
>> I've already seen people who feel burned that they thought they could
>> restore their iDevice from a backup back to iOS 6 but can't.
>>
>
> We've never been able to do this except via hacky backdoor methods. Best
> practice has always been to keep a few devices hanging around that you
> don't upgrade. This isn't anything new or remotely related to an iOS7
> upgrade.
>
>
>> In any case, I'm restoring the things that were removed, like button
>> backgrounds on alert text, borders around buttons (nav bar back button),
>> non nauseating color scheme. A one pixel border below the status bar, etc.
>>
>
> While you are free to do this - in general, reverting to the UI of yore is
> not the best practice to embrace. "Resistance is futile. :)" I think you
> will be surprised at the problems you will create for yourself trying to do
> things the old way with the new SDK ... but I'm sure you'll write often to
> tell us all about! it :)
>
> Learning how to deal with things like the new status bar / navigation bar
> paradigm is going to be critical for your future projects.
>
>
>> I have pretty strong negative opinions on iOS 7, but from a usability
>> perspective, it sure creates a lot of work for those of us who care about
>> usability, readability, and not burning our eyes out with glaring colors on
>> an almost 100% white background.
>
>
> As alluded to in some of the other posts, some of the others of _us_ that
> care about usability, readability, dynamic text, full screen views, fewer
> shadows and performance are finding good times ahead as we embrace the
> platform and learn how to maximize the toolset - instead of fighting with
> it. Your mileage may vary.
>
> Regardless, a little humility in times of change never hurt anyone. Try to
> remember that we don't all notice brilliance when it is staring us in the
> face :)
>
> http://www.finearttips.com/2011/10/10-famous-artists-who-died-before-their-art-was-recognized/
>
> Cheers!
> -Luther
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 24, 2013, at 4:22 PM, Gordon Apple wrote:
>>
>>> I really don¹t like to do posts like this, but I think it is warranted.
>> My
>>> motivation is to find out how others are coping with this. Admittedly,
>> I¹m
>>> late to the party, only upgrading after the release. There were only a
>> few
>>> features I thought I might add in my iPad apps for iOS7, so I just let it
>>> slide. Now, I¹m looking at issues I thought would never be a problem.
>>>
>>> iOS7 has a lot of great stuff, especially at its core. However, its UI
>> is
>>> downright fugly, especially standard controls. There is always some
>>> consternation about change, but that is not what this is about.
>> Usability
>>> is a strong component. Sliders look terrible, Segmented controls look
>> like
>>> something a 5-yr-old might draw. The original B&W Mac did better.
>> Pickers
>>> are downright unusable. No borders and you can¹t even see a division
>> between
>>> columns. Scrollable views don¹t give any indication that they are
>>> scrollable. If popovers don¹t have enough color contrast, you¹d never
>> know
>>> they were there (no borders). Also, a lot of apps are having issues with
>>> handling the status bar. Some of this might work on an iPhone, but just
>>> doesn¹t look good on an iPad. IMHO, if this is Joe Ivy¹s doing, he
>> should
>>> get the same treatment as the guy at MS that was responsible for Windows
>> 8.
>>> This all seems to be going the wrong direction.
>>>
>>> I¹ve started at least embedding pickers and tables in bordered views. Not
>>> ideal, but better than nothing. I¹m thinking about abandoning segmented
>>> controls for a bordered view containing buttons. Other than doing a
>> whole
>>> slew of custom controls, how are others dealing with these issues?
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