Re: What's up with the Cocoa Text System?
Re: What's up with the Cocoa Text System?
- Subject: Re: What's up with the Cocoa Text System?
- From: Ben Kennedy <email@hidden>
- Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 23:33:01 -0800
Is your personal hubris about a job you were not offered 14 years ago (and tastes for interview style) somehow relevant to the other developers on this list?
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> On Jan 23, 2015, at 2:38 PM, Michael Crawford <email@hidden> wrote:
>
> Cocoa Text is glacially slow compared to what it would be had Apple
> offered me the developer tools job I interviewed for in 2001.
>
> Perhaps, when interviewing with the Xocde team, it might not have been
> a bad idea to avoid criticizing Xcode. I made it quite clear that I
> was unimpressed with Mac OS X in general, and to this day, I regard
> Mac OS System 8.1 as the very finest System Software release Apple has
> ever produced.
>
> Are you familiar with the term "Bozo Filter"?
>
> More or less, I won't accept a job offer, unless I can call my
> potential employer a jackass directly to his face - then have him
> agree that he is, in fact, a jackass.
>
> No doubt you expect that I am of very modest means. I was quite
> wealthy at one time, but my money did not do me a whole lot of good.
> Michael David Crawford, Consulting Software Engineer
> email@hidden
> http://www.warplife.com/mdc/
>
> Available for Software Development in the Portland, Oregon Metropolitan
> Area.
>
>
>> On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Jens Alfke <email@hidden> wrote:
>>
>> On Jan 23, 2015, at 1:53 PM, Michael Crawford <email@hidden> wrote:
>>
>> At one time I found it quite painful to edit source code with Xcode.
>> I was told that was due to Xcode using the Cocoa text widget.
>>
>> Consider that Lightspeed C worked just fine, snappy and responsive, on
>> my 6 MHz 68000 Mac 512k (or was it 8 MHz).
>>
>>
>> I used Lightspeed C too. Its editor didn't support Unicode, or any languages
>> outside the basic Roman alphabet. That's a significant quality-of-life issue
>> for programmers whose first language isn't English. It also didn't do live
>> syntax checking or code folding. In fact it only supported monospaced
>> single-color text (no syntax highlighting.)
>>
>> The Cocoa text system compares to that editor, or MacWrite, the way
>> Photoshop compares to a crayon. And some of those features may seem like
>> nice-to-have frills to Americans (contextual forms, ligatures, bidirectional
>> layout, pop-up text input panels) but are must-haves for languages written
>> by the majority of the world's people.
>>
>> I'm sure that if we resurrected the Lightspeed C engine, it would let you
>> type at about ten million words-per-minute on today's computers. So what?
>> The editor only needs to be fast enough to keep up with human fingers. The
>> rest of the CPU time can be dedicated to extra features.
>>
>> Cocoa Text isn't slow. (And it wasn't slow on a Power Mac G3 back in the day
>> either.) One guy is having some nasty slowdowns that seem to be caused by
>> something incidental, not an intrinsic problem with the text system.
>>
>> --Jens
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