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Re: Understanding the "declaration of instance variables in the interface is deprecated" warning.
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Re: Understanding the "declaration of instance variables in the interface is deprecated" warning.


  • Subject: Re: Understanding the "declaration of instance variables in the interface is deprecated" warning.
  • From: Alex Zavatone <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2015 11:02:55 -0400

On Jun 3, 2015, at 10:41 AM, David Duncan wrote:

> There are 3 ways to add ivars to a class. The traditional way:
>
> @interface Foo {
> 	id _bar;
> }
>
> And 2 new ways:
>
> @interface Foo() { // Class extension, note the ()
> 	id _baz;
> }

Ahhhhhhh.  Completely missed that.  Haven't seen it explained that clearly in a morning of surfing.

So, running a quick test using the clang pragma for -Wobjc-interface-ivars, in both the .h and .m files of a class this clarifies the Apple and Clang documentation quite a bit.

In the 3 cases you outlined for declaring iVars, Clang ONLY warns about declaring the ivars within the @interface parens of @interface which is generally within the header file.

Both other cases (the two new ways of class extension, @interface stuff() {} and @implementation stuff {} ) do not upset Clang at all.

So, generally, the rule comes down to "don't declare ivars within the @interface that is probably within your .h file but if you need to (you should use properties instead), you can within the class extension and @implementation."

Does this sound like a proper explanation?

Thanks much, David.


> @implementation Foo { // Implementation block.
> 	id _faz;
> }
>


>> On Jun 3, 2015, at 7:32 AM, Alex Zavatone <email@hidden> wrote:
>>
>> Maybe I should have included the text above it.
>>
>> "It's also possible to use a class extension to add custom instance variables. These are declared inside braces in the class extension interface."
>>
>> So, I don't know how you see that it goes in the @implementation block since the code I pasted and the line above it say it goes in the @interface.
>>
>> Page 73 of
>> https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/ProgrammingWithObjectiveC/ProgrammingWithObjectiveC.pdf
>>
>> On Jun 3, 2015, at 10:22 AM, Mark Wright wrote:
>>
>>> That’s a ‘Class Extension’.  Furthermore, it’s under the title "Class Extensions Extend the Internal Implementation”.  It also mentions that it goes in the @implementation block…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 03 Jun 2015, at 15:11, Alex Zavatone <email@hidden> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Apple's Programming with Objective-C reference document © 2014
>>>>
>>>> https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/ProgrammingWithObjectiveC/ProgrammingWithObjectiveC.pdf
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Page 73
>>>>
>>>> @interface XYZPerson () {
>>>> id _someCustomInstanceVariable;
>>>> }
>>>> ...
>>>> @end
>>>>
>>>> Uhhhhhh.
>>>>
>>>> Doesn't this violate Clang's own mention that "declaration of instance variables in the interface is deprecated" in Apple's own recommendations and documentation?
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