Re: Language options: Objective-C, Swift, C or C++?
Re: Language options: Objective-C, Swift, C or C++?
- Subject: Re: Language options: Objective-C, Swift, C or C++?
- From: Ariel Feinerman <email@hidden>
- Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 22:30:00 +0300
Why just do not use some clone of Smalltalk for Mac OS X before inventing
new language?
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Quincey Morris <
email@hidden> wrote:
> On Jun 17, 2015, at 00:56 , Graham Cox <email@hidden> wrote:
> >
> > To me this is actually a good thing that I’ll be sorry to see go away in
> Swift.
> >
> > With a separate header that only contains the public stuff, I can see at
> a glance what a class does without being overwhelmed by its implementation
> details.
>
> It’s already done in Swift 2. While you’re editing in the one pane, the
> Counterparts setting in the assistant pane (which in Obj-C shows the .h
> when you edit the .m) shows exactly this view, along with documentation
> (///) comments. It actually shows public and internal API within a module
> (basically the same thing), but I assume when used cross-module it shows
> only public API, but I haven’t had a chance to try that yet (though this is
> what Command-click on Cocoa APIs shows you, so I assume it works the same).
>
> > It’s also untrue that you have to write *everything* twice - you have to
> write the method definitions twice, which is a minor bit of work.
>
> I was being a little bit facetious. It’s minor when you’re first writing
> the class, but if you’re creating a lot of classes at one time (say,
> converting code from another language), it gets very tedious very quickly.
> It’s also one of the “I can’t believe the IDE doesn’t do that for you”
> features that newcomers to Obj-C complained about in the dev forums *a lot*.
>
>
>
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best regards
Ariel
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| References: | |
| | >Re: Language options: Objective-C, Swift, C or C++? (From: Roland King <email@hidden>) |
| | >Re: Language options: Objective-C, Swift, C or C++? (From: Carl Hoefs <email@hidden>) |
| | >Re: Language options: Objective-C, Swift, C or C++? (From: Quincey Morris <email@hidden>) |
| | >Re: Language options: Objective-C, Swift, C or C++? (From: Graham Cox <email@hidden>) |
| | >Re: Language options: Objective-C, Swift, C or C++? (From: Quincey Morris <email@hidden>) |