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Re: 12 hr vs 24 hr time display
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Re: 12 hr vs 24 hr time display


  • Subject: Re: 12 hr vs 24 hr time display
  • From: Alex Zavatone <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2017 21:07:03 -0600

On Jan 3, 2017, at 8:02 PM, Sandor Szatmari wrote:

> Alex,
>
> On Jan 3, 2017, at 19:51, Alex Zavatone <email@hidden> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jan 3, 2017, at 3:02 PM, Sandor Szatmari wrote:
>>
>>> Gary,
>>>
>>>> On Jan 3, 2017, at 14:52, Gary L. Wade <email@hidden> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Is there a problem with using +[NSDateFormatter localizedStringFromDate:dateStyle:timeStyle:]?  Depending on your needs, you might also consider +[NSCalendar autoupdatingCurrentCalendar].
>>>
>>> I am looking for detecting whether or not the system defaults to 12 or 24 hr time.  The obj-c method I'm already 'parsing', -dateFormatFromTemplate:::, returns a template string with well defined formatting tokens that are easy to detect.  Plus they directly reflect the user's Locale & Region settings.
>>
>> I'd expect that would be a function of the language and the locale, possibly just the locale.  Do you care what it defaults to or what it's currently set to?
>
> That's correct and I only care so far as I can determine it as being either 12 or 24.
>
> The relevant methods are, -dateFormatFromTemplate::: returns a format string which -localizedStringFromDate:dateStyle:timeStyle: consumes to produces a human readable Date string.  I am not doing the second step described here.  Producing he actual string the view is separate from this state stored in my model.
>
> The relevant bits are: -dateFormatFromTemplate::: with a template of 'j' returns the default format string for the Locale passed as the Locale argument.  I am passing [NSLocale currentLocale].
>
> It is my understanding that any Locale which supports the 12 hr time format must represent the AM/PM as 'a' in the format string provided to -localizedStringFromDate:dateStyle:timeStyle:.  So therefore the presence of 'a' indicates that the Locale is configured for 12 hr time.  Otherwise, it's 24 hr time.  What I am relying on is the behavior of -dateFormatFromTemplate::: when passed the 'j' template.  This behavior is documented here http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr35/tr35-31/tr35-dates.html#Date_Format_Patterns.  It specifically mentions using 'j' to determine the presence AM/PM or not.  i.e. 12 or 24 hr time.
>
> Might some Locales only support 12 or 24?  Maybe, maybe not.  But if I decide to only rely on the setting from Locale & Region and my interpretations are good this should not matter.  The user will never see 12 or 24 for locales that do not support them.
> The specific section is http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr35/tr35-31/tr35-dates.html#Day_Period_Rules.
>
> Thanks,
> Sandor
>
>>
>> - Z
>>


Well, I am sure that some default to 12 hour time (US) and others to 24.  I know that you're doing this on the Mac, but last time I checked, there were about 900 locales supported on iOS.  The point here is that you should be able to get the user's current locale and see what they is set for that.

It's possible that (even though this is an issue for the Mac) that you will find the approach you want looking for a solution on iOS.  Check their currentLocale

This has relevant data and on iOS, it would be [NSLocale currentLocale];
You could look into [NSLocale componentsFromLocaleIdentifier:myLocaleIdentifierString] and use [[NSLocale currentLocale] localeIdentifier]

Also, check here.

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/35435218/ios-time-in-24-hours-format

Good luck, I think you're almost there.

Cheers.

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 >12 hr vs 24 hr time display (From: Sandor Szatmari <email@hidden>)
 >Re: 12 hr vs 24 hr time display (From: Sandor Szatmari <email@hidden>)
 >Re: 12 hr vs 24 hr time display (From: "Gary L. Wade" <email@hidden>)
 >Re: 12 hr vs 24 hr time display (From: Sandor Szatmari <email@hidden>)
 >Re: 12 hr vs 24 hr time display (From: Alex Zavatone <email@hidden>)
 >Re: 12 hr vs 24 hr time display (From: Sandor Szatmari <email@hidden>)

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