Re: Cocoa-dev Digest, Vol 16, Issue 144
Re: Cocoa-dev Digest, Vol 16, Issue 144
- Subject: Re: Cocoa-dev Digest, Vol 16, Issue 144
- From: Rob Petrovec via Cocoa-dev <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 14:08:06 -0700
> On Nov 14, 2019, at 1:13 PM, Pier Bover <email@hidden> wrote:
>
> > I wouldn’t be so pessimistic about macOS or even iOS update rates.
>
> According to StatCounter Mojave never went above 52% or market share, which
> means at its peak 48% of users were still on previous versions.
>
> https://gs.statcounter.com/macos-version-market-share/desktop/worldwide
> <https://gs.statcounter.com/macos-version-market-share/desktop/worldwide>
>
> I think it will be worse for Catalina. It's anecdotal, but every Mac user I
> know will remain in Mojave or even previous macOS versions for the
> foreseeable future. Also, every audio software developer I know has been
> sending emails to its users to not update to Catalina. Audio forums are full
> of people not being able to use their hardware with Catalina because of some
> driver problem or something else.
Market Share is not necessarily the same as upgrade rates. Either way,
the chart you linked to kind of proves my point though. It shows that the
majority of users are using the latest released OS after less than a year. And
at least 25% have adopted Catalina in two months (assuming Catalina is listed
under “Other”). Thats pretty quick, IMO.
—Rob
> On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 1:52 PM Rob Petrovec <email@hidden
> <mailto:email@hidden>> wrote:
> I wouldn’t be so pessimistic about macOS or even iOS update rates. Its
> considerably quicker than you think. IMS, they announce upgrade rates during
> public earnings report conference calls typically to brag about how well a
> new OS is being received by the public over previous releases or competing
> OSs.
>
> re Cocoa being deprecated: I think you have some time. A lot of
> apps/components in the OS are written in Obj-C and it is a big undertaking to
> convert them all. Not something that can feasibly be done in a year or two.
> Remember how long it took Finder to switch from Carbon to Cocoa? And even
> then it was half Carbon & half Cocoa. It took a couple releases for it be
> all Cocoa. Not to mention Carbon was officially deprecated in 10.8 (back in
> 2012) and is only now dead in 10.15 (2019). So I think Cocoa still has a
> good number of years of life left before it is deprecated and even more years
> before it is dead.
>
> —Rob
>
>
> > On Nov 14, 2019, at 12:30 PM, Pier Bover via Cocoa-dev
> > <email@hidden <mailto:email@hidden>> wrote:
> >
> >> Well I think the point is to go SwiftUI
> >
> > What if you want to support previous macOS versions older than Catalina?
> >
> > I doubt the majority of users will update to Catalina for at least 1-2
> > years.
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