Re: Thoughts on Cocoa
Re: Thoughts on Cocoa
- Subject: Re: Thoughts on Cocoa
- From: Pier Bover via Cocoa-dev <email@hidden>
- Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 13:28:29 -0500
I much prefer the Microsoft approach here. I guess the lesson to be learned
is to depend as less as possible on Apple or either be forced to go through
all the frequent SDK and language changes.
I'm planning on working on a desktop project and looking for solution to
use Cocoa/Swift as less as possible. For the UI I can use a web view which
works for my use case. I can also use cross platform modules with languages
like C++, C, or Nim. Another option would be using QT.
If developing a new product I would also seriously consider if it can work
on the browser as a web app. Development is much easier in my experience
than mobile/desktop apps.
On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 12:15 PM Turtle Creek Software via Cocoa-dev <
email@hidden> wrote:
> Sadly, we just decided to abandon the Cocoa update for our app. It's not
> easy to walk away from 3 years of work, but better 3 years lost than 5.
> Time will be better spent on our Windows version.
>
> TurtleSoft started Mac-only with Excel templates in 1987. The first
> prototype of our current stand-alone accounting app was in the early 90s.
> Since then, programming for Mac has gone through four primary programming
> languages (Pascal, C++, Objective C, Swift). Three, soon to be four chip
> architectures (680x0, PPC, Intel, ARM). Four frameworks (MacApp or Think
> Class Library, PowerPlant, Carbon, Cocoa).
>
> Microsoft and Adobe are big enough that they've survived the many pivots.
> They can just throw 100 programmers at it. Intuit has barely kept up. For
> anyone smaller, it's hard to justify the constant need to rewrite code just
> to stay in the same place. Return on investment is just not there. Seems
> like each new update is more difficult.
>
> Many good apps for Mac have died in one pivot or another. We managed to
> lurch through most of the changes, but not this one. Thinking ahead to the
> consequences of Marzipan was the last straw.
>
> Meanwhile, our Windows version hasn't needed any work since 2000. It
> probably will take less than a year to get it updated to 64-bit and a
> better interface.
>
> Casey McDermott
> TurtleSoft.com
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