Re: Thoughts on ARC
Re: Thoughts on ARC
- Subject: Re: Thoughts on ARC
- From: Sam Ryan via Cocoa-dev <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 12:57:29 +1300
I have recently looked at utilising Swift to update an old Carbon based
application. I stopped pursuing this path Swiftly, in part because of lack
of good support for sockets and generally problematic use of CG* code.
I tried a completely new approach - Electron. I have found Electron to be
surprisingly quick to prototype, easy to bridge to c++, and is cross
platform (non mobile at least). I would not have recommended a non-native
approach until recently, but for what it is worth, I've come to realise
this is one of the better options available these days. YMMV.
Sam
On Tue, 1 Oct 2019, 06:09 Jens Alfke via Cocoa-dev, <
email@hidden> wrote:
>
>
> > On Sep 30, 2019, at 8:16 AM, Robert Walsh via Cocoa-dev <
> email@hidden> wrote:
> >
> > however, to use it to do anything other than building a desktop or IOS
> GUI application seems to result in code with messy syntax and what seem to
> me to be hacks in order to bridge between NS* and CG* code. (Lots of casts
> and strange machinations for massaging pointers.)
>
> This is true when calling C code from any language that isn't based on C
> :) Bridging between different languages is not a simple thing (I've done a
> lot of it…) Take a look at how you call C code from Rust, Go, Java,Python,
> etc.; it's at least as complex.
>
> > Also, as you've said Swift makes cross-platform development nearly
> impossible because, even though Swift itself is available on other
> platforms, the pre-built components that prevent the developer from having
> to reinvent every wheel from scratch are not.
>
> This is true, but getting less so. There's pretty good support for
> server-side Swift now, apparently.
>
> Both of these are complaints about the immaturity of the Swift libraries,
> not about the language itself, and the good thing is that libraries are
> much easier/faster to build than languages.
>
> —Jens
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