Re: ICC and Colorspaces
Re: ICC and Colorspaces
- Subject: Re: ICC and Colorspaces
- From: "Russell Proulx" <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 10:24:12 -0500
- Priority: normal
On 6 Dec 2000, at 8:50, email@hidden wrote:
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I often hear the same complaints as with Wizi: color casts (usually
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green) and clogged shadows. I find ProfilerRGB does a better job to
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begin with, and then offers editing capabilities if you still need
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to tweak the profile.
Now I'm left to decide between buying ProfilerRGB (which folks claim will
do the job) or DoctorPro which might offer more in the way of tweaking
both RGB and CMYK WiziWYG profiles that aren't perfect. I don't mind
tweaking as long as I get what I need. Any opinions?
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> What kind of RGB working space is recommended when outputting?
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Just use AdobeRGB; Bruce holds no real advantages over it, and is
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non-standard.
I ask this because I'm not clear when making a "profile to profile"
conversion which "from profile" I should be using. If the colours of an
image are presented so differently on the monitor with different RGB
spaces (sRGB vs Wide Gamut being two extremes) then what does the
"profile to profile" conversion think I'm looking at on my screen? My
thinking suggests that there should be a big difference between doing an
"sRGB -> Pictro_ICC" conversion and a "Wide Gamut RGB ->
Pictro_ICC". Note that I'm forced to do profile to profile conversions
because the labs I output to don't use an ICC profile workflow. I'm also not
going to offer them the fruits of my time and $ for free.
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You haven't really described what your problems are, so its a bit
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difficult to address them...
I have yet to produce a good profile using WiziWYG. I'm not clear if the
problem is in my methods and thus the RGB colorspace and other
questions. If the problem is with WiziWYG then I need to determine the
most cost-effective way of getting what I need.
I'm a photographer who needs to be able to send my digital work to a lab
and get back something I can deliver to my clients (typically industrial,
corporate portraits, and some PR photography). ICC profiling seems to
promise this ability. Initial failures (including a profile offered by Andrew
Rodney as "proof" of what ICC had to offer) were blamed on the output
printer (a KodakCRT) not being stable enough (can't profile a moving
target). I can understand that with more stable devices (such as the
Pictro) an ICC profile workflow is possible and this would be great. Most
labs in this town have non-standard kludged workarounds in place which
force them to tweak incoming work according to the whims of their
operator and this destroys the creative link from me to what comes out on
the print. I don't want to waste my time working on images that look
nothing like what's coming out the other end. I'm hoping that a good profile
will save me from having to buy my own Pictro which would be an even
more costly workaround <g>
Thanks for the help :-)
Russell Proulx
Photographer
Montreal, CANADA