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Re: Epson7000: Absorption/ReflectanceReadings
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Re: Epson7000: Absorption/ReflectanceReadings


  • Subject: Re: Epson7000: Absorption/ReflectanceReadings
  • From: email@hidden
  • Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 11:30:09 EST

In a message dated 12/29/00 8:24:16 AM, email@hidden writes:

>I am attempting to tweak an ICC profile using an Epson 7000 using
>Generations inks, and a coated watercolor sheet. I had Andrew do a
>profile for me, and it's very "neutral" but it tends to moosh up in the
>90/95/100% areas. I'm using CustomColorICC to tweak his profile. Several
>questions have come up in this process:
>
>1. Even though this sheet is coated, is there a possibility that the
>inks would absorb "more" in these more saturated areas? I built a curve
>to try to alter this and it's worked pretty well. I tried to isolate
>only the 90-100 areas.

This is likely to be caused by the RGB driver's sharp CMY gray to K black
transition in this range; a good CMYK RIP would do offer more control of
this...
>
>2. Why do profiles have both a name and a description? It seems that
>sometimes a profile is known by one or the other in a pull-down menu.
>What's the purpose in this two-pronged approach? It seems only to risk
>confusing matters.

Yes, its a problem with the ICC standards, and the best current approach to
dealing with it is to make sure both are identical...

>3. I also added Digital Swatchbook to the mix this week. After setting
>it up and calibrating it, I notice that even though my 100% black chip
>in the 21-step wedge LOOKS totally black, the reading from the
>spectrophometer reads out at about 31/32/35 RGB.

Thats a pretty typical L value for a black patch on WC paper...


I would think it would
>be definitely 0/0/0, because the black is so saturated. Just to check,
>we read also a glossy stock with a black chip, and also got about
>30/30/30 value in the black.

This is not suprising. Glossy stock can have black L values below 20, but
that depends on a number of factors...


This seems to devalue all the other reading
>that we got along the wedge, although the upper values seem to coincide
>more with the RGB value from the InfoPallette. The problem seems to
>start when you get darker than about 80-85%. I tried to find a way to
>manually "force" my blackest black to a "0/0/0 reading" but could not
>find a way.

This is not the issue, or the solution; controlling your black generation is
the best solution (see above) or avoiding K blacks by setting your images
darkest areas to be less than black (oddly enough) can improve things on
water color papers by avoiding K only blacks and instead using dark CMY mixes
right up to the darkest tones in the image, to avoid the K transition
entirely.
>
>Any insight on these three issues would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Best of luck with your issues.

C. David Tobie
Design Cooperative
email@hidden


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