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Re: ICC in PDF / iQueue
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Re: ICC in PDF / iQueue


  • Subject: Re: ICC in PDF / iQueue
  • From: Henrik Holmegaard <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 11:43:12 +0200

Joel wrote:

And we all know how Quark currently handles that. But to do so
wouldn't that require a marriage Quark doesn't want and, perhaps,
Adobe does?

I don't know, maybe. But Quark can't just walk away from PostScript and PDF support. Ebrahimi doesn't present it that way, either. He is saying that the publishing industry is de facto PostScript-based, and doesn't want the web because it is an extra production cycle but with no way to bring in extra income. So the way he sees it, Quark helps publishers retool for server-based database operations, and publishers develop into retailers. If David reviews a stage performance and Joel prints it, then Andrew, Neil, John and Steve order tickets from Joel. If Steve has 10 boxes for a spot sale, he offers them on Joel's DMS warehouse / e-zine site. The DMS architecture is geared for this, and according to Ebrahimi the Quark hiring scheme has focussed on server engineers which the Adobe hiring scheme has not. I'm just repeating here ...

This may all be fine, but if Quark fails to deliver on PostScript support, and on support for PDF which is increasingly used as the format for digital ads, you will see big publishers vote with their feet for InDesign. And then Quark folds.

ID uses the default intent of the assigned profile when making PDF: Is this not >so? And, in the case of Relative Colormetric, is Simulate Separation Printer >just another name for BPC?

You may want to distinguish between ICCBased and CIEBased in PDF 1.3.

If you tell InDesign to 'Include ICC Profiles', then it uses object-specific embedding, meaning with ICCBased the whole profile gets embedded and not subset. You can test what happens with InProduction, though it's cumbersome. With CIEBased the profile gets subset into CSAs.

InDesign does not support Black Point Compensation, meaning the old Photoshop relative colorimetric with relative white and relative black separations. If you choose Relative Colorimetric for your separations in InDesign, you get relative white and absolute black. In a world which is moving from small monitor RGB to big working space RGB as source color space for digital originals, you should tell ordinary users to choose Perceptual to get the same result across applications.


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