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Re: Fluorescence


  • Subject: Re: Fluorescence
  • From: Juris Valdmanis <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 21:26:21 +0200

hello everybody!

I'm get confused with all of this fluorescence stuff! May be you can help me
to get right with this?

I can't determine if my proofing paper counatins these fluorescent
brighteners or not!

From letter below I understood that, if UVfilter is used while measuring
paper, result should be the same for papers conntaining fluorescent
brighteners and for papers without them. Is it corect?

I also did some measurings with my paper. Measuring IT8.7/3 target without
UVfilter I get profile where neutral gray (15% K) stays neutral (16C 13M 13Y
0K), but measuring with UVfilter, neutral gray (15% K) becomes a little
bluish (16C 14M 8Y 0K). So this is what I can't understand, because I
thought that result should be the same!

Do you have any suggestions?

thanks,

Juris Valdmanis
Jelgavas Printing House
Latvia


> From: Robin Myers <email@hidden>
> Organization: Robin Myers Imaging
> Reply-To: email@hidden
> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 21:47:50 -0800
> To: ColorSync Users <email@hidden>
> Subject: Fluorescence
>
> I would like to clear up a misconception that some people have about
> fluorescence. It is not only caused by ultraviolet radiation. Fluorescence can
> also be initiated by light in the visible spectrum.
>
> For papers and fabrics, fluorescent brighteners are part of the method used to
> make them look white. As part of their manufacturing process, the substrate
> materials are bleached to make them white, or as white as possible (the
> natural
> color for most papers and fabrics is yellowish), then they are treated with a
> fluorescent brightener to counteract any residual yellowness. In the case of
> fabrics, as they are laundered during their lifetime, they tend to return to
> their natural yellowness, so whites are rebleached and the fluorescent
> brighteners reapplied to maintain their whiteness. For a long time these
> fluorescent materials were known as "bluing" agents.
>
> Many white papers encountered in color management contain fluorescent
> brighteners that convert invisible ultraviolet light into visible blue light.
> This is an absorption of higher energy light and a re-emission of light at a
> lower energy. Since this is a process of higher energy light being converted
> to lower energy light, it can occur with higher energy visible light being
> converted to lower energy wavelengths of visible light. If anyone is
> interested, I can email them a graph showing an orange color measured with a
> GretagMacbeth Spectrolino both with and without a UV blocking filter applied.
> The results clearly show that the material continues to fluoresce when the UV
> light is completely blocked, thus proving that the fluorescence is caused by
> visible light.
>
> This means that the ultraviolet blocking filters will only effect the
> materials that fluoresce with ultraviolet light. It also means that any
> spectrophotometer can cause a fluorescence during its measurement if the
> material being measured will fluoresce with visible light, including the CM2s.
>
> So, why worry about visible fluorescence? Just put on an ultraviolet blocking
> filter and measure away. At one point in time, one very popular printer
> manufacturer produced almost all their magenta colorants as a fluorescent
> version. It made color matching almost impossible. Most manufacturers do not
> use fluorescent colorants, but you should be ever vigilant. Never assume your
> instrument will not cause fluorescence or that you are not measuring
> fluorescent colorants until you run a test. And if you are measuring paper
> with a fluorescent brightener, you should use an ultraviolet blocking filter
> for your measurements.
>
> Robin Myers
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 >Fluorescence (From: Robin Myers <email@hidden>)

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