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Re: Preview RGB space versus RGB working space
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Re: Preview RGB space versus RGB working space


  • Subject: Re: Preview RGB space versus RGB working space
  • From: Henrik Holmegaard <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 11:53:08 +0200

Chris Murphy <email@hidden> wrote:

In Photoshop 6, it's not merely that it supports LUT-based monitor
profiles, but that it will allow any LUT-based profile (monitor, scanner,
or output) to be used as an RGB working space.

The message in that post was the same as Adobe now gives out: If you go for spaces that use LUTs, make sure you check them out. Meanwhile, as a rule, use matrix-based for working spaces.

Again, the point is to get the general message out, you can always qualify. Over here on the ECI list there are discussions about eciRGB10, too. Whether to take it further with LUT technology, to let it remain matrix-based, or what...

What you need to keep in mind is that users have been told that the good thing is to stay in the source space, and just reference that to CIE instead of bringing the pixels into CIE (: meaning Lab in practice). This has been the message that got through: Reference to CIE because bringing into CIE is too large a step for users to grasp (and for developers to implement -:)).

At this point you can see on this List how often people ask if they should use their scanner space, their camera space, their monitor space. This is a recurrent question because the underlying message for late binding RGB workflows is not clear and never was:

a. Stay in source RGB

b. Move into linear RGB

b2. Move into linear RGB of the size of a prepress monitor

b3. Move into linear RGB greater than the size of a prepress monitor

b3. Qualified moved into LUT-based RGB

c. Move directly into Lab

These are six messages, and with countless qualifications for (b2), (b3) and (b4). Six messages is definitely five too many when everybody in the workflow has to get it right.

I still think Lab workflows are far more robust and require far less educational maintenance, but what I think seems to be irrelevant, unfortunately -:).

And yes, if you ask Barco, you will be told that a matrix-based monitor space is fine, if you can calibrate the guns (Barco Calibratortalk, obviously - and Quatographic with ProfileMaker inside). Otherwise, precision is higher with LUT-based monitor profiles.

This argument is a long one, but personally I'm starting to say that with intents now working (well, working in more applications than before), and stable, large gamut PS inkjets being on-line, it is preferable to run a presentation or proof print as reflective proofing is preferable to emissive.

As a friend wrote the other day, 'De gustibus et coloribus non disputandum est ...' -:). Or in the new cyberlatin, 'Of taste and color there can be no debate'.


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