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Re: 16-bit vs 8-bit images
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Re: 16-bit vs 8-bit images


  • Subject: Re: 16-bit vs 8-bit images
  • From: email@hidden (Bruce Fraser)
  • Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 09:38:55 -0800

At 2:38 AM -0500 2/12/02, Todd Flashner wrote:

So often the bit depth conversation is discussed in absolute terms, as
though one mode is better than another, when I think the question is what
types of data, images, workflows, outputs, etc., justify the use of one mode
over the other.

Yes!

Pretty much all digital images start their life as >8 bits per channel, and the one thing I'd be absolute about is that the big moves need to be done in the high-bit mode, whether in the scanner/camera software or in Photoshop. (It makes very little sense to capture raw uncorrected 8-bit images.) So let's accept as a given that we all do high-bit editing to some degree. The question is really when is worth bringing all those bits into Photoshop?

The main reason I started bringing high-bit images into Photoshop was my frustration with most scanner software's weird implementations of color management and my disinclination to make critical decisions based on a postage-stamp-sized preview. So, crappy capture software is one good reason.

I mostly shoot neg film, because I'm not a very good photographer and because I don't really like the way most chrome films distort color. 16-bit neg scans give me much greater freedom to interpret tonality than 8-bit while eliminating the effects of the orange mask.

If you're going to repurpose images, particularly if you're going to do compositing, 16-bit scans make it a lot easier to balance the color of individual elements before compositing, and give you more headroom for optimization for different output processes.

Exposed film is irreplacable, and scanning is an invasive process no matter how careful you are. I like to make sure that I capture everything that's on the film when I scan, so that I never have to do it again (or maybe do it again in 15 years when I have a scanner that's an order of magnitude better than the ones I use today). The easiest way to do so is to pull a raw full-rez high-bit scan.

If I'm dealing with an image that I know stands a strong chance of banding, I keep it in 16-bit all the way through CMYK conversion. It's not a miracle remedy, but it often makes a critical difference.

If any of these reasons resonate with you, you may want to try a high-bit workflow. It's not a religious issue for me the way it is with some people, and ther are certainly no absolutes involved. (Well, if you're doing a catalog of plumbing parts to be printed on newsprint, I might go so far as to say that there's absolutely no reason to do them in high-bit mode, but someone will probably come along and blow me away with gorgeous liquid highlights on a 3/4=inch elbow shot with a scanning back under HMIs...)

Most of the people I know who have adopted high-bit workflows are photographers who have an emotional investment in the image. In a good many production scenarios it makes little sense. I'm not interested in proving that high-bit is "better" in either an absolute or relative sense. I know that it's allowed me to do some things I couldn't have done in 8-bit, but they may not be things anyone else wanted to do.

The real bitch is that you don't know if you need high-bit until it's too late....

Bruce
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