Re: Creating ICCs with pigmented inks
Re: Creating ICCs with pigmented inks
- Subject: Re: Creating ICCs with pigmented inks
- From: Terry Wyse <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2002 09:17:38 -0400
on 6/30/02 9:13 PM, Graeme Gill wrote:
(Terry said):
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> Yes, either run in the opposite direction of the printer or trade it NOW for
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> a Photo Dye version.
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Why ? The Dye is seriously unstable compared to the Pigment. The Pigment
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is certainly my recommendation for proofing on the Epson 10K, and is
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the system we have just had approved for 3DAP here in Australia
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(see <http://www.3dap.com.au/proofingsuppliers.htm>)
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Why people (particularly in the US) are obsessed with the Dye
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version of the 10000 is beyond me. The gamut of the pigment
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version is extremely good (I can show you the gamut
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surface plots), and more than adequate for matching Analog
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Cromalin for instance (which is the 3DAP requirement).
Well, since I'm the guy who made the "run the other way" comment, I'll give
the reasons for my statement:
* The 10000CF has a reduced gamut, there's no denying it. For CMYK proofing
it's OK but if you want to use, say, the spot color capabilities of the
BestColor RIP the reduced gamut becomes as issue.
* Ink stability with the Photo Dye 10K can be greatly improved by choice of
paper. A couple of the Best Proofing papers work well.
* The one thing that really kills the 10000CF for me and customers is the
metamerism issue (some say it's better than others in this regard but it's
still bad IMO). While it's being viewed in a standard viewing booth you're
OK, but you virtually can't let the proof get in customers hands where you
have no control over the type of light they view the proof under.
Having said that, I've profiled the 10000CF and have gotten good results but
the dye version profiles much easier in my experience once you've gotten a
handle on the ink stability/paper choice issue.
Terry
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