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Re: Lino SCSI No Show
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Re: Lino SCSI No Show


  • Subject: Re: Lino SCSI No Show
  • From: "Dennis W. Manasco" <email@hidden>
  • Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 04:22:38 -0600

At 9:16 am -0600 1/12/03, Anthony Sanna wrote:

>fsck -y checks and repairs your filesystem.

I was beginning to X my son's TiPB yesterday, and things got a little flaky on the OSX partition. I ran Repair Permissions first, which produced a fairly sizable list fixed files. After that, I ran DiskWarrior, which also found a list of problems with the newly installed system.

Are either of these two functions similar to fsck -y, or better accomplished with this terminal command?


Tony --

fsck and DiskWarrior accomplish similar things, but I don't believe they are quite identical. Repairing permissions is a completely different sort of operation.

DiskWarrior is the acknowledged champion at correcting subtle problems with directory structures, including compaction of structures to make them smaller and more reliable. AFAIK no other disk utility goes to the lengths that DiskWarrior does to correct and optimize minor details of the catalog system; details that most ignore as irrelevant but DW's authors claim can lead to future problems. Who's right? I don't know, but DW is an important part of my toolbox.

I don't know that fsck goes as far into the catalog structure as DW and I don't believe it does as thorough a job, but I like to use it because I figure Apple knows more about the eccentricities of their drivers and file systems than anyone else. A few things I may have forgotten to mention about fsck: Always use it from single-user mode (start up with command-s). If fsck finds any problems run it again (and again) until it finds no problems. (I read somewhere that you should reboot after fsck finds and corrects problems and _then_ run it again, but I do not do so. That doesn't mean you shouldn't :)

I would always run fsck first, then DW, then repair permissions.

Repairing permissions does not correct basic problems with the structure of files or catalogs on you hard disk. Instead it returns the read/write/access/etc. permissions of important system files and directories to their "factory" state. This is important because installations (and certain programs and extensions) may change these permissions. Some processes depend on them being in their original state and incorrect permissions can cause them to display unpredictable behavior, including file corruption.

I wish there was a program, that I trusted, that went the extra step of checking the integrity of individual files and their catalog representation in OS X. If there was one I would run it after the 'repair permissions' step above, and probably go through the entire sequence an additional time just to be sure. Candidates would include Norton Utilities and Tech Tool Pro/Drive 10. If any of them were working properly they could fix more subtle problems with individual files than the above three steps.

Unfortunately I don't yet trust any of them with my OS X disks. That may well be a mistaken opinion and your mileage may vary. If you do use them I would strongly caution against issuing a repair confirmation for a volume with 0 byte content size. (Ouch!)


Best wishes,


-=-Dennis
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