Re: BEST v5
Re: BEST v5
- Subject: Re: BEST v5
- From: Tyler Boley <email@hidden>
- Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 16:10:27 -0700
From: Henrik Holmegaard
...
One does not publish loose images except on the web where they can't be
color managed. Loose images are placed in a page which is then
published as color managed. If the photographer is unable to receive a
PDF from the graphic designer and / or the press operator in order to
take part in the publishing process...
I receive pdf layouts all the time, but no client has ever asked me to
take part in the publishing process other than to provide photography.
In fact, attempts to be included have not been well received (a problem
since childhood).
..., but believes her job is done when
she has uploaded her TIFF images, then to be sure she may be able to
take part in some projects,
In my real world, even that is barely there. I realize there are some
environments where everyone is up to speed, but the reality is that most
aren't here. Of course I can provide this if helpful, but in my market,
film is still strong believe it or not. Digital for web.
but increasingly she will cut herself off
from work in which she cannot take part.
I have to tell you, I've been keeping up with digital and color
management as best I can for a long time, but as yet have been able to
incorporate very little of it into the work. Color management has been a
battle for those of us also required to be at the leading edge of our
primary craft, photography. Somehow we are expected to educate our
clients on top of all of that. May I suggest the color industry take on
that task? Other than being able to open a pdf, or create one if
absolutely necessary, I've totally ignored the pdf buzz.
What's it gonna do for me? Keep me up later at night? Get me more
involved in fruitless tech conversations with clients? Gee, the film
could have been picked up from the lab, fedexed out, and my invoice
mailed by then. Please don't answer those questions, I'm just making a
point.
I'm a commercial photographer, a fine art photographer, a fine art
digital printmaker (I haven't forgotten you David, carts were only
recently available. Very soon), and ahead of most other photographers I
know with regard to these issues. Frankly, yet another complicated
workflow to master while color management still isn't quite working is
too much.
If absolutely required, I need a postscript RIP to proof a sourcebook
add, but of course they won't accept my inkjet proof anyway. For fine
art printing I have and do use a RIP, no postscript thankyou. But I have
yet to see a problem free profile, or conversion, are we moving on already?
No, photographers are not accustomed to constant large equipment
expenditures, my analogue equipment was a large initial investment
needing occasional maintenance or rare updating. Yes, I am the target of
all this marketing, for stuff no one understands, is too expensive in a
budgetless era, from an industry unwilling to target the resistance, the
prepress, printers, and actual design firms and agencies. And they ARE
used to large ongoing expenditures. Photographers are generally not that
savvy, scared of falling behind, being middle aged, bla bla. Easy target.
Don't mean to rant, I'm the guy the neighbors call for color management
advice (is that where the money is?). I just thought I'd provide you
with an alternate view from the trenches, exaggerated a bit of course. I
realize you can throw success stories at me, I submit they are the
exceptions.
Tyler
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