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Re: On buying a new CRT these days...
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Re: On buying a new CRT these days...


  • Subject: Re: On buying a new CRT these days...
  • From: Roger Breton <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 21:27:54 -0400

Hi Jack,

Just a note to tell you how satisfied I am, so far, with my new Mitsubishi
2070SB-BK. It took me a while to figure out how to operate the OSD to
control the gun ammplifiers (thank god, I finally got a hold of the NaviSet
remote USB control who, so far, on OSX, works like a charm) but I am getting
a bright 115 Cd/m2 @ D50 chromaticities. It is very nice.

Regards,

Roger Breton | Laval, Canada | email@hidden
http://pages.infinit.net/graxx

>
> Just wanted to thank both of you for including me in on your extra discussion
> about monitors. Very interesting and very informative.
>
> Michael you might remember me. We tried to hook up at Seybold SF about five
> years back when you were still with HP. I wanted to show you some really
> successful projects I had completed using ICC color management, and at that
> time most commercial printers didn't have a clue what it was (some still
> don't). Turns out we both were confused about the agreed up rendezvous spot
> and never got to meet face to face.
>
> C. D., we met once at one of the Seybolds in SF--I think about three years
> ago. Congratulations on your new position. Perfect guy for the job.
>
> I'm still an avid reader of the ColorSync users list and an even more zealous
> user of this great technology.
>
> For the past several months I've been thinking about purchasing a new monitor.
> In my mind it was basically a debate between the the Sony Artisan vs the Apple
> Cinema Display vs a well calibrated Mitsubishi 2070, the latter being the most
> cost effective. Then Mitsubishi announced their new "Adobe RGB Monitor." Alas,
> more confusion...
>
> From the gist of your comments, it sounds like you're both pretty big fans of
> the Apple displays, and their most recent improvements?
>
> Thanks so much for your time and expertise.
>
> Jack Kelly Clark
> Principal Photographer
> ANR Communication Services
> University of California
> 1441 Research Park Drive, #110
> Davis, CA 95616
> (530) 757-8987
> http://anrcatalog.ucdavis.edu
>
>> Actually, they weren't that saturated. It was in the Olympic rain forest and
>> the foliage was very bluish-green instead of a more typically yellowish-green
>> that we normally see in open areas. I was actually surprised because my
>> expectations were like yours, that I would not really find many mainstream
>> natural colors that wouldn't show up on my lovely sRGB monitor...but I did.
>>
>> There is another subtle limitation of sRGB and it is similar to rounding
>> issues when doing computations. If I have a big enough gamut in my working
>> space or display, then I can avoid introducing gratuitous color processing
>> (gamut mapping) into my workflow. If I am really careful, this isn't such a
>> big problem, but like rounding errors, I usually get bit when I least expect
>> it.
>>
>> Good chatting with you,
>> Michael
>>
>>
>> From: email@hidden [mailto:email@hidden]
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 5:29 PM
>> To: Michael Stokes; email@hidden; email@hidden
>> Cc: email@hidden; email@hidden
>> Subject: Re: On buying a new CRT these days...
>>
>> In a message dated 10/14/03 5:51:01 PM, email@hidden
>> writes:
>>> In my experience, working with these monitors, you can actually see
>>> natural greens of trees and leaves and grass (not to mention textiles
>>> and synthetic products) that no matter how well you calibrate other
>>> monitors, you simply can't see. It is sort of like working with SWOP and
>>> then doing fine art on a good inkjet. They both work, but boy oh boy,
>>> good inkjets provide a lot more flexibility in achieving one's artistic
>>> intent.
>>
>> They would have to be pretty saturated trees to get into that range! But yes,
>> thats the area it would show in, when it showed at all: that wedge from neon
>> green through fluorescent cyan tapering to electric blue.
>>>
>>> But I like your logic David because it implies a well calibrated sRGB
>>> workflow and working space is just dandy (just kidding) ;)
>>
>> It really *is* dandy for those willing to live within its gamut... its for
>> those seeking colors outside it that all the rest of this comes into play.
>>
>> C David Tobie
>> email@hidden
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