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Embedding CMYK profiles


  • Subject: Embedding CMYK profiles
  • From: Chris Murphy <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2004 17:46:00 -0600

No one is doing it, and there are two reasons:

1. Good quality profiles are too large, who wants to increase file sizes and then push them around a network all day? Especially in prepress, print or any higher volume workflow.

2. Implementation in various applications makes it really easy for unsuspecting users to get undesirable conversions, merely because a profile is present in a CMYK file. Example: several images with different amounts of black generation, with their respective profiles embedded in them, preserved upon placing into either QuarkXPress or InDesign, handoff to printer who uses SWOP v2 if they use color management at all, these images get reseparated using the Kgen in the SWOP v4 profile.

Both problems are important, and actually perhaps the second is more important than the first, but for the moment I'd like to generate a discussion about solving the first problem. It's clear people are not embedding profiles because they take up too much space, in various workflows. Even Bruce and I are not embedding profiles in our CMYK images for RWCM because we'd be pushing almost an extra gig of data around that was totally pointless and unhelpful. RGB images are tagged of course, and we convert using custom press profiles, but we save the images without embedding, and they get placed into a document that assumes the press profile as source. So they are "tagged" but the profile is not embedded.

I think we need a new means of embedding either subset CMYK profiles (i.e. the AtoB1 tag + header only), or in the world of the internet, to have URL-based profile embedding. Yes there are all sorts of issues that arise from this but I think it needs to be discussed seriously because embedding profiles in CMYK images is pretty much a completely rejected concept, with exceptions fairly few and far between. Tagging makes the image data MORE valuable, so it is necessary and helpful to solve this problem.

Thoughts anyone?

Chris Murphy
Color Remedies (TM)
www.colorremedies.com/realworldcolor
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Co-author "Real World Color Management"
Published by PeachPit Press (ISBN 0-201-77340-6) Murphy
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