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Re: Adobe Acrobat versions
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Re: Adobe Acrobat versions


  • Subject: Re: Adobe Acrobat versions
  • From: <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 17:36:15 -0500

Roger,

The image with the profile got converted to sRGB once
placed in Word, the other obviously stayed the same.

Where did you find the details of the color conversions? Are there some
obvious color management options I missed in Word? And you say you're on a PC. Hmmuh.

Its a miracle!
Just "Insert image from file" in your doc (a TIFF image with a profile that is).
When transformed in a pdf with Color Mgmt options "ON",

Through what chain of events, Danny? Print to Acrobat PDF? I suppose you do
have the PDF Writer plug-in installed on you PC.

I only use PDF Writer when I want to keep the active links of my Word doc in the final pdf. I prefer to use the "PDF printer" aka Distiller (less Power, more Control!).


With the same file, I then assigned Adobe (1998) as the
working space and now everything is managed as being Adobe (1998).

OK. If I'm not mistaking, the assignement you refer to is through Acrobat Pro Preferences.
Through Acrobat Distiller, the app.

Further, I believe these Preferences are not stored with the PDF itself.

Yes and no (please continue)!

So, the minute this PDF is opened in another environment
there is no telling in whose (competent or incompetent) hands it will fall into? Could you force AdobeRGB onto the PDF like store it in the file itself?

No!. Pre-flighting the pdf shows that the image is assigned the proper profile assigned using Distiller. This info is kept in the pdf.


Don't you find it off that the colors are now off? I'm sure you could open
up some color image in Photoshop, convert it from back and forth from sRGB
to AdobeRGB a couple of time and you wouldn't still end up with "too saturated" as a result?

The convertion within Word is a ONE-WAY street.

So, someone with MS Word and a full version of Acrobat, the Pro version,
*can* reasonably well manage RGB colors between Word and the world PDF?

There is hope. Never saw the final printed doc of these tests though!


 Is it required to go CMYK if you go from PDF to
 DocuColor?

Either you do it or the RIP inside the DocuColor does it or Acrobat on its
way to the RIP does it. There are many intervening steps on the way to the
toner. If you do it then you must have an ICC profile of the DocuColor.

Is this as easy (insert sarcasm here) to get as a press ICC profile? Would a canned profile work?


BTW, have you finished that excellent section on your site about the Munsell ColorChecker chart?

Just updated it, go see it!. With data from many who (like you) saw my request, on my site and in the Rob Galbraith's forum, and sent their ColorChecker spectral data. The more I will get spectral data (or just L*a*b*), the better the simulated RGB and L*a*b* images will become.


Danny
www.BabelColor.com

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