Re: Eizos and stuff
Re: Eizos and stuff
- Subject: Re: Eizos and stuff
- From: David Remington <email@hidden>
- Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 18:01:06 -0400
We now have several Eizos in our shop. I didn't go for the new Adobe
gamut model. Too much $$$ in a rapidly evolving area of technology. We
have (2) 19s, (1) 20, and (1) 18. We have anther 20 and another 19
hooked up in a second department. I also have 4 - 5 year old Barcos and
1 to 2 year old Artisans. I personally and becoming a convert (it
doesn't hurt that there is no choice CRTs are officially history). I
think the 19 inch is the sweet spot. The screen is slightly larger than
that of a 20 inch CRT. The price is OK, and if you already have an eye1
or similar you're good to go. Forget the 250cdm2. Eizo recommends 120
max for critical work and that is plenty bright. I set the Artisans to
92cdm2 which was the best I good get at 5900k (my Artisan white point).
I set the Barcos to 5700k and default brightness and contrast. My
current Eizo preference is 5800k, 120cdm2, 2.2. I picked all of these
settings by comparing images on screen to originals in our GTI booths.
I find the Eizo image, while different, preferable to work with and
look forward to advances that are sure to come (so don't buy top of the
line today). After calibration the contrast is not to high. Shadow
detail is very good. Screen illumination uniformity is better than
either of the CRTs and sharpness is in another league. Highlight detail
is a little tricky and there is a bit a "glassy" look to the image. The
image still changes a bit as you move your head but it's not an issue
(especially with the 19).
Good luck!
David
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From: GARY BARNETT <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: Eizos and stuff
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Man, you guys are even more serious than I had guessed. I've used a
Barco in the past, but never heard of Eizos til today. Went to the
site. $$$ Are they that screamingly better than the LaCie? Please don't
laugh. I am new to this level of enthusiasm and refinement. I never
thought the Barco was all that sweet compared to 1) a Phillips
Brilliance 21 or 2) my LaCie electron 22 blue II with blue eye, which
is getting old enough to consider replacing, especially now that I
finally have a G5 headed my way.
And I have never, even in a very dark room, been able to adjust to the
Barco or any other monitor at D50. Way too dim and yellow to my eyes.
D65/100cdm2 is fine by me, and looks very, very close to my GTI no
matter what illumination level I slide it to. Same with the floor
standing GTI models I have worked under.
I see the Eizo flat screen has an amazing 250cdm2 and outrageous 1000:1
contrast ratio (I am so not used to LCD yet, can you tell?). Do you
guys, in general, make use of numbers like this in critical color work?
At my usual yahoo printing forums some people recommend around 85cdm2
on their CRTs (I know we are talking apples and oranges momentarily).
What gives? My impression of the Apple Cinema Displays, the only LCDs I
have had the opportunity to work with, is that the contrast was too
high even after adjusting to D65 and the brightness beyond usability
(for matching to either Epson 5000 or 9000 inkjets or Kodak Approvals,
3M Matchprints or the final press products, despite being much easier
on the eye in general.
I'm just starting to shop, and I'm glad I just found this discussion
group. I will try not to reveal the depth of my ignorance too often,
but could use an answer or two here before I let you guys go back to
speaking geek.
And I thought, after 15 years, I had a handle on color management. Huh.
And I guess my rods and cones have been looking into the sun for too
long, even if I can still see red/blue shifts out their in galaxy land
on my scope. If I dim my GTI, it looks a tad warmer, not cooler. Oh
well. Maybe I should take up house remodeling or something. I've always
been pretty good with my hands.
Thanks for the differing white-point-per-eye reassurance, by the way!
Gary Barnett
David Remington
Head Photographer for Collections Digitization
D 40 Widener Library
Cambridge, MA 02138
p 617-496-9346
f 617-495-0403
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