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Re: Profile compression


  • Subject: Re: Profile compression
  • From: Phil Green <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 21:45:47 +0000

Chris

There is no reason why you can't reference a profile by url today, and the ICC certainly anticipates this form of using profiles becoming increasingly common.

As far as I can see, there is also nothing to stop anyone extracting the header from a profile and incorporating it into an application or OS for a purpose such as referencing by url - as long as the usage accords with the license given by the vendor of the profile creation software. In a V4 profile, the MD5 checksum from the header could be used to help ensure the correct file was being referenced.

Phil

Chris Murphy wrote:

Tom,

This is a good example of why the ICC needs to update the specification to allow for a bodyless profile. Basically it would contain just the header, and a couple of URLs pointing to the actual profile data which could then be kept up to date. The implementation of this by the operating system vendors would involve caching the body of the profile so that it would first search locally and then if not found there it would use the URLs in the profile header to locate that data (and then cache it for future use).

This doesn't solve your problem now, but we really need the ICC to get on the stick. This has been a big pain point for CMYK based workflows (among a number of other unrelated things), and I predict it will be a problem for the larger ICC v4 versions of editing space profiles such as sRGB and Adobe RGB. The ICC has to figure this out VERY soon, so that the operating system vendors can implement this in a reasonable time frame. If they do it now, there is a good chance this could be implemented in the next major version of the OS's, but if they diddle around for another year or more on this issue, then it will just be that much longer.

My suggestion is to go to the ICC web site, www.color.org, and "Ask Phil" in the upper right hand corner. When can we get header+URL profiles? What's the time frame? The squeaky wheel gets the oil so I'd make a point of asking this every few months. Standard time frames for the ICC are glacial.

I've found binary files to not be very compressible, and that includes ICC profiles. One way vendors make them smaller is to build them using a smaller table size, which then compromises their accuracy. Some vendors assume people won't use them for softproofing, only for B2A conversions, so they'll put in high quality 33x33x33 matrix tables for B2A but use much smaller A2B tables to save size, compromising the soft proof quality.

I haven't tried it, but you might give bzip2 a crack at an ICC profile and see if they come out any smaller than just zip compression.



Chris Murphy
Color Remedies (TM)
www.colorremedies.com/realworldcolor
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Co-author "Real World Color Management, 2nd Edition"
Published by PeachPit Press (ISBN 0-321-26722-2)


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