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Re: Who does the seperations?
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Re: Who does the seperations?


  • Subject: Re: Who does the seperations?
  • From: Bob Marchant <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 22:42:24 +0000


On 4 Jan 2007, at 21:38, Kevin Muldoon wrote:

Creating separations is not rocket science but I think everyone would agree that converting RGB into CMYK involves a level of responsibility.

Yep.

I believe it makes sense for a photographer to limit his responsibility and allow the printer to generate the separations and contract proof that is dialed into his press.

With respect, this is a decision for an individual photographer to make depending on his/her market. Contrary it would seem to popular belief , there is more than one kind of photographer (if you exclude the monkeys that is :-) ). For some of us it makes a great deal of sense both monetarily and creatively to take more control of the image.


I agree with Andrew Rodney that photographers tend to understand ICC Color management concepts more easily than prepress guys but does that mean the photographer wants to attend 6AM press checks when they should be in Paris on a photo shoot?

If the press is working to ISO standards, or to the specific print condition that they have sent me , why should I attend a press run. They've got a proof haven't they ? Got to say though that it can still be an interesting experience.


BTW , last year I attended a production conference with a session called "Printing in the Dark". After the initial jokes along the lines of "I thought all presses ran like that" , there was a sobering talk about just how accurate a press could be if set up for ISO standards and then automatically adjusted using sensors along the run with no intervention from operators. The presenters had surprised themselves with the accuracy and efficiency achieved.

Or explain why the EPSON they printed doesn't match the Waterproof, Matchprint, PolaProof or Kodak Approval that the printer made of their submitted CMYK files?

So what your saying is that if the printer isn' t colour managed , that's now the photographer's problem . No surprise there then. Or is EPSON meant to be a term of contempt <BG>. If it is then, there are going to be a lot of upset repro houses out there who use them for their certified proofing devices.


I'd say they could spend their time more constructively and creatively.

And I'd say that time spent on colour management and CMYK separation and proofing of my precious originals is both constructive and creative , and profitable, and part of my responsibility to my particular client base. They are as fed up as we are with paying 3rd party push button conversions to incorrect destination spaces , and then being charged for completely unnecessary "colour correction" down the line . They are successful agencies and design groups working on colour critical projects who now see just how efficient and accurate a properly colour managed workflow can be from photography to press. They no longer carry the old prejudices so lovingly welded to the old 'gatekeeper ' practices.


Times have changed . Working practices have changed. The old borders have become blurred. Some think it's for the worse, some for the better.. From where we're standing , it's a welcome breath of fresh air.

Regards,

Bob Marchant.





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