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Re: Apple/Adobe Imaging, DAM and Workflow
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Re: Apple/Adobe Imaging, DAM and Workflow


  • Subject: Re: Apple/Adobe Imaging, DAM and Workflow
  • From: Martin Orpen <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 23:22:49 +0100

On 17 Jul 2007, at 20:35, Keith Cooper wrote:

If you want to know my position on RF it's published and can be
discussed at length here: <http://www.pro-imaging.org/>

Only if you want to -pay- to join in the 'discussion' :-)

And given you have to promise to never look at RF before you join, the
prospect for much 'discussion' would perhaps seem somewhat limited? ...

Keith

Being as PI is the only photographic organisation with an anti-RF stance, I'd suggest that we are the only game in town where RF is actually challenged! Other organisations, like the SAA, have been left looking like complete hypocrites as their members undermined their stated position by becoming increasingly involved in RF.

That is why it is important that ground rules are made very clear on the PI site. You can look at RF. You can get involved in RF. But once you choose to join PI you have to end your involvement with RF.

If you are interested, and prepared to entertain an RF-free lifestyle, then you don't need to pay up front. Prospective members get a free trial and the membership fee is peanuts.

Jeff made the following point:

That dog don't hunt bud...yes, RF is having a real negative impact on the
income of assignment and RM photographers, that don't do RF. But it's
neither the fault of the stock industry nor Adobe that has brought this
about. It's other photographers. And until the photographic industry comes
to grips with the reality that photographers are ruining the photographic
industry, nothing will change for the better.

I'm sure that the members of Pro Imaging would be delighted to debate this with him at length - so that was my reason for extending a personal invitation for him to make his points at the PI site.


On the matter of "paying to join", PI is a non-profit organisation and the fees are spent in promoting the work of members. To make my position clear, I am one of the three founders and provide the servers, list administration and site programming for a nominal fee.

Along with the other admins I also spend countless hours helping members with any issues relating to professional image making.

Our reason for donating so much time to the project is that we are opposed to Jeff's view of photographers. The nature of the photographic business means that photographers are easy to divide and exploit. An organisation devoted to disseminating knowledge means individuals get some additional choices and a chance to think about and question issues like the RF economic model.

Regards

--
Martin Orpen
Idea Digital Imaging Ltd


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