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Re: Designers, Color Management, and Xrite , some thoughts and comments.
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Re: Designers, Color Management, and Xrite , some thoughts and comments.


  • Subject: Re: Designers, Color Management, and Xrite , some thoughts and comments.
  • From: Rick Gordon <email@hidden>
  • Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:45:06 -0700

So then if the user gets bad results in DVD Player or other non-color-managed programs because they had no choice but to choose a 2.2 gamma default, that's not a problem? They have to wait for Apple (i.e., Godot) to "fix" it?

I can't buy that. Even Apple's display Calibrator let's the user choose a gamma. I say give the user a 2.2 default and radio buttons (2.2, 1.8, and Custom) labeled with a concise explanation to make a choice.

Rick Gordon

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On 4/18/08 at 5:10 PM -0600, Andrew Rodney wrote in a message entitled
"Re: Designers, Color Management, and Xrite , some thoughts ":

>On 4/18/08 4:54 PM, "email@hidden"  wrote:
>
>>The other day Steve Rankin pokes his head over my cube and askes me if we should put a preference in to set the gamma to 1.8 in the CM software. Before ripping into him,  I politely asked him why, if we were trying to make this easy for an end user, should we complicate it, by introducing a gross distortion into most standard non color managed workflows.  He pointed out that a magizine review was going to give us "one star" for not complying with the Mac OS "requirement" of 1.8 .  The reviewer pointed out that if a user calibrated his screen  to a gamma of 2.2 the image from the DVD player on the Mac would appear incorrect because it did the gamma conversion .  I did a little checking and sure enough, it's true.  They also do this in all their motion applications.
>
>Steve apparently is a MARKETING product manager right? Otherwise who gives a
>rat's ass about what a reviewer says over what the customer says? In this
>day and age, aiming a product like ColorMunki to a new group who doesn't
>know Gamma from a banana, why on earth do we (X-Rite) need to go down this
>path? And there's no reason anyone on a Mac or any other OS should stick to
>this so called imagery "requirement" of a "Gamma" of 1.8 (quotes used with
>emphasis). So Steve is saying its more important to get that good review,
>disregard educating the reviewer and making the product complex for the core
>audience? And Marc got fired? There is nothing fair in this scenario.
>
>And so the DVD player isn't color managed, like most web browsers, this is
>the fault of X-Rite not putting in a big and unnecessary hurt me button in
>the application? Let me have a nice dinner, read what Steve said so I can
>now throw up on my keyboard.

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EMERALD VALLEY GRAPHICS AND CONSULTING
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