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Re: Colorsync-users Digest, Vol 5, Issue 53
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Re: Colorsync-users Digest, Vol 5, Issue 53


  • Subject: Re: Colorsync-users Digest, Vol 5, Issue 53
  • From: Mike Strickler <email@hidden>
  • Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 14:07:27 -0800

Hi Stanley,

I'm not sure I'd put it exactly that way, but I see what you're driving at. The fact is that these Epson (HP, Canon, etc.) driver settings were carefully made for specific printers, papers, resolutions, etc. and not for anything else. So they can be quite good. RIPs are designed for general use with many different makes and models of printers, and sometimes their drivers' settings are not as perfect for a given printer as one might like. Also consider how small RIP manufacturers are and how much manpower it would take to work out the best settings for dozens of printers, each paired with several papers and keep everything up to date. That's where one needs to intervene in things like light/dark ink distribution, as well as being careful with ink limits. If it's done right the results are pretty comparable to what you'll get with the RGB driver. For proofing, however, a dedicated proofing RIP is virtually a necessity. In my opinion, such a RIP should have an additional Lab optimization (preferably iterative) to improve the alignment of the proof with the reference profile as well as some sort of abbreviated process control using a FOGRA or similar control wedge.

Best,

Mike Strickler

MSP Graphic Services
423 Aaron St. Suite E
Cotati, CA 94931
707.664.1628
email@hidden
www.mspgraphics.com


Message: 4
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 10:07:55 -0800
From: "Stanley Smith" <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: RIps v. Epson driver
To: <email@hidden>, "Mike Strickler"
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Mike-- your conclusion confirms what I've long suspected, but not really tested myself-- that the Epson drivers are superior to most RIPs.. We use RIPs here only for workflow purposes (Onyx), and they have proved to be difficult to maintain. I'm wondering if our gain in workflow benefits are really worth it-- mostly we just need to be able to manage the queue and linearize the printers for consistency.

I would like to ask the list if anyone is successfully using OSX Server Print Services for the functionality that is normally associated with a RIP-- queue management, security, logging use, etc. A cursory look at Apple's guide for OSX Server seems to suggest that this functionality is there, but is anyone using this in lieu of a RIP? Do we really pay a price in productivity using the Apple services? I ask, because I am ready to dump Onyx in favor of something a little less convoluted and tortuous, but not really wanting to spend the dollars or time necessary of going to a high-end RIP solution such as GMG....



Stanley Smith
Manager, Imaging Services
J. Paul Getty Museum
1200 Getty Center Drive,  Suite 1000
Los Angeles, CA 90049-1687
(310) 440-7286






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