RE: Proofing paper for matte film coated prints
RE: Proofing paper for matte film coated prints
- Subject: RE: Proofing paper for matte film coated prints
- From: "Robert Rock" <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:21:30 -0500
- Organization: P. Chan & Edward, Inc.
Hanno,
I'm not sure I follow your question. Sounds like the final product will have a matte film lamination. This is not the same thing as matching matte coated papers.
What I have done is to create profiles for products that will be matte laminated (dust jackets, etc...). I did this (using X-Rite/Monaco Profiler) by outputting the CMYK profile targets to file, and sending them to the prepress house for press proofing.
NOTE: Rather than profiling the actual offset production press, we opted to profile the press proofs created by the prepress house, since these can always be accurately matched by the printer. It made no sense to us to profile the actual production press since we never know which press will print the book covers/jackets. But all our printers can usually match the press proofs accurately.
After we receive the press proofs of the targets, we send them to the printer to get matte lamination (same as will be used on the final product). Then when I get them back, I read the targets (X-Rite DTP-70) and create my profiles.
The tricky part is how the profile is used. After all color corrections are made and finalized to the press proofs, we then covert the files to this new matte lam profile and press proof again. This proof will NOT look like the previous proofs because the profile is accounting for the matte lamination that will come later (it will usually appear excessively bright). But you need this proof because THIS is the proof that the pressman will follow. He should not even see the previously approved proof from the client.
After printing and lamination, the finished product will look MUCH better than the previous workflow without the profile. It will not be PERFECT, because of the nature of how light travels through the matte lamination substrate, but it WILL be an improvement.
Regards,
Bob Rock
-----Original Message-----
From: colorsync-users-bounces+bobrock=email@hidden [mailto:colorsync-users-bounces+bobrock=email@hidden] On Behalf Of Hanno Hoffstadt
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 10:59 AM
To: email@hidden
Subject: Proofing paper for matte film coated prints
Dear list members,
we haven't yet found a proofing paper to approximate the appearance of
matte-coated offset prints (done typically with 15 mu OPP film, and
much used for book covers, dust jackets, etc.)
The only solution we found is to actually laminate the proof, and
with the same thin OPP material as used for the print - this can be
done only by those companies that provide print lamination.
We tried PVC-based lamination pouches (80 um) unsuccessfully (the
"office-type"). We have no experience with LFP laminating systems
and materials.
Of course, it is a bit unrealistic to wish for a really matte paper
which stays that way when printed on.
But does anybody have something to recommend?
The ECI working group on "coating" would be happy to hear from you...
(I apologize for cross-posting from eci-en)
Best regards,
Hanno Hoffstadt
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