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Re: Best Color Management Practices for Web Image Creation
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Re: Best Color Management Practices for Web Image Creation


  • Subject: Re: Best Color Management Practices for Web Image Creation
  • From: Chris Murphy <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 00:55:05 -0400

On Jul 14, 2008, at 9:44 PM, Harmon, Jeff wrote:
I submitted the request for Firefox 3 to permit turning on color management
in the preferences UI, rather than in a config text file. Was this done?
Can anyone else please request this, if not?

So far I've expressed opposition to a UI option for color management. In my view, the connotation of a UI option translates into "color management is optional." In this case I think it will terribly confuse users to have this option, and it will prolong the inevitable transition.


If there is a way to explode inconsistency of color on the web, having some users using a web browser with color management off, and others with it on, with an option as to which camp they're in, would be a pretty good way to do that. And as people get web browsers and leave them on their machines often for a year or more at a time, I think an option is incongruent with a timely transition to full color managed web browsers.

On the flip side of this, having it on by default by FF 3.1, which is currently planned but I don't know when that version would ship, might be a problem due to bad EDID data from displays being used to build display profiles on the fly. This is how Mac OS X has worked for a very long time to the point where it's assumed most everyone has such a profile in use now. That is the profile FireFox will be using, except for the rathe small percent of the market using a custom display profile. (This is a web browser, and a consumer market, not at all the same thing as a Photoshop market).

Just as an FYI how big of a difference, here's one example (perhaps a pretty bad example) for a MacBook Pro (LED) revision 4,1. Using DeltaE 2000, where DeltaC = difference in chroma, and DeltaH = difference in hue. This is JUST for the blue primary, the red primary and green primary aren't as dramatically affected but aren't all that close to sRGB's primaries either.


EDID vs sRGB

DeltaC 21
DeltaH 13
DeltaE 8

EyeOne Pro vs sRGB

DeltaC 43
DeltaH 37
DeltaE 23

Either way, there is a rather large deviation in the blue primary for this MacBook Pro compared to sRGB's blue primary. And based on the EyeOne Pro's measurements, Apple's reporting of the primary via EDID is even farther off, which is pretty pathetic if true. If Apple can't compel their vendors to get it right, what about other vendors?

So I think we need more data before the switch is thrown, in any event. If it's working well enough with existing display's EDID reported data, then I say turn it on by default, without an obvious option for turning it off.



Chris Murphy
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