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Re: Gutenprint and CUPS
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Re: Gutenprint and CUPS


  • Subject: Re: Gutenprint and CUPS
  • From: "Jim Mowreader" <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 07:53:26 -0400

Jurgen Richter sends:
As an advanced Joe (Jurgen) user, I could see that as an option that could be selected. If you look at some of the Adobe print menus you have the option of printing crops and color bars, etc... and yes of course that requires a bigger sheet. I run up to A2 size. When I need that information the requisite paper would be used. When I have satisfactory
results from the diagnostics/test print, I would choose to turn them off and print full sheet on the smaller paper as
needed. Sure would be nice to have that option.

Wouldn't turning off the color bars mess up the whole "closed loop" thing? Printers drift DURING jobs, not just between them. Look at a Gandinnovations printer. Their claim to fame is the ability to compensate for a dropped nozzle during a print run. (Well, that and the size of the machine--the little Gandinnovations machine has a three-meter-wide carriage.) I have two of what in Europe is called a Mutoh Rockhopper IIK wide-format inkjet printer--in North America it's called a Toucan LT--which is designed to stop printing when an ink cartridge goes empty. One of these printers will allow cartridges 2, 7, 8 and 10 to run completely out without stopping the machine--you know it happened when the print changes colors all of a sudden. That's the kind of thing you need a closed-loop CM that reads the image, not color bars that got turned off, to prevent.


And going back to Adobe issues - why not have one consistent print menu between the Suite of applications? It could
be as complex as the Acrobat one or simple as the Photoshop one. If it were consistent, Adobe Creative Suite users
could in fact expect consistent results. Now I have to rasterize everthing in Photoshop to get consistent output between
the applications. But then again, CUPS and Gutenprint does the same thing (rasterize) with a different engine. I wish the
interface was simpler (as simple as the Photoshop print menu for example, with an "expert" button that gives you
advanced options such as ink control, etc.), but I can see that with the myriad printer/paper combinations possible, that
is not going to happen at the current "cost" of Gutenprint.

Jurgen, I'm really worried about the state of Adobe. Adobe's print dialogs don't concern me because I never see them--I haven't printed directly from an Adobe application in years. I either place the image in QuarkXPress and print to a laserwriter from there, or I open the file in Onyx ProductionHouse, which is a RIP for wide-format printing. What DOES concern me is that a lot of the effects in Illustrator won't print correctly. Their answer to everything is "run a PDF workflow." Well...some of those effects won't print (right now I'm thinking Drop Shadows and Transparency) whether the file they're in is saved as EPS or PDF. They seem to have gotten a new product tsar who thinks everything is going online in the next six months. Well, that's great...that's really great...last I checked, it's hard to put the wrapper off a Snickers bar online. I am not going to read a web page while I'm on the toilet. And I guess I'm just supposed to hang a monitor on the side of someone's car and tell the world what a great full wrap I put on it. "Online" has screwed just so many people. A chuckle for ya: I was listening to the "John Boy and Billy Big Show" on the way to work this morning, and they were discussing the guests they were going to have on the show. One pair was described as an "Internet Sensation" by John Boy. Billy said, "that means they're world-famous but they're not making a dime off it, right?"


--jm

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