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Re: CS4 (CS3 in my case), 10.6, Epson 4880 (4800 in my case)
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Re: CS4 (CS3 in my case), 10.6, Epson 4880 (4800 in my case)


  • Subject: Re: CS4 (CS3 in my case), 10.6, Epson 4880 (4800 in my case)
  • From: Rob Griffith <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:10:48 +0000

Hi Mark

I'm afraid I don't have any more info yet. I'm hoping my post will provoke some more discussion.

What really baffles me is how the prints can come out so dark when trying a no colour management path from CS4. If colour management was in fact still active either in CS4 or the driver and the charts were printing out WITH a profile the result wouldn't be so bad.

It's as if the driver is being kicked into an entirely different mode somehow, perhaps it's bypassing the built-in ink limiting, linearisation etc associated with the media type and just chucking out RAW output.

Regards

Rob Griffith

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On 30 Oct 2009, at 20:04, email@hidden wrote:


Rob,

Try printing using some of the paper manufacturer's profiles. If you are
able to create your own profiles and this is a new printer for you (ie, no
library of profiles for this printer) you are in a fortunate position.
Until they fix the problem, whereupon you will have to make all new
profiles.


The problem is not only printing without color management but there seems
to be some double color management going on when printing from Adobe apps.
I have a 4800 that I have been using since they hit the market a few years
ago, so I have a fair library of paper profiles for this printer and I am
quite accustomed to how this printer prints when working correctly.
Everything from PS CS3 prints dark now. I have had to create a transfer
curve to embed in each image for the time being. Everything printed from
InDesign CS3 prints too light (without a transfer curve) by about the same
amount. I haven't spent much time trying to figure out the InDesign problem
since I don't need it often at home.


And as if that were not enough, I am also having problems with the apparent
printed area size, where I print an image scaled in the print dialog to say
a 9 x 6 inch image on an 11 x 8.5 sheet with the result that only part of
the image prints. The rest is cropped. Sometimes. It seems if I scale it so
the resulting resolution is a multiple or even fraction of the native print
engine resolution of 720 ppi (360, 720, 1440) it does not happen.


Clearly the move to 10.6x triggered these problems, but I think it is a
result of weaknesses in the driver that break. My opinion. Epson has mixed
messages depending on who you talk to. I have deleted and reinstalled all
epson drivers and other files several times, with no change in results.


The 4000 series and 3800 printer drivers have not been rewritten for 10.6
as of yet, and I can't get any firm commitment from Epson about if or when
that will happen.


I have posted some of this on the ColorSync list but no one seems to have
anything to say about the dark printing aspect of the problem.


I too have tried changing default paper profile in the ColorSync utility to
no avail.


I know 10.6.2 will have some ColorSync fixes in it but I have no
information about exactly what it will address.

Do you have any other info?

Mark Muse


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